What is the point of katarin's sled

[art_loots]

The addition of the sled i'm not even hatin against but why hype it up in several post so in the same update you will bring it make it surpassed by the frost wyrm.
although not the biggest fan of the wyrm being added if CA had a long term vision wouldn't it make more sense to delay said wyrm to another kislev update. cause we all know SoC didn't fix the fundamental problems of the kislev campaign (nor of kairos)

[Aleera]

Because maybe just maybe she'll be far better on the sled, with decent damage and a lower profile.

Wulfrik on his chariot is almost just a good a killer, but so much more tankier then on his mammoth.

If you use settra on the Warsphinx instead of the chariot of the gods, I weep for you.

[Jukelo]

Originally posted by chickabumpbump:

Originally posted by Zeek:

How do you conclude that?

The games victory conditions are laughably lazy, diplomacy is still basic, sieges are still garbage, maps are still garbage with no unique maps for capitals, AI is still garbage, the settlement trading mechanic is garbage and races still don’t care if their capital is taken.

I don’t think long term vision outside spam DLC lord packs is something CA understand

You made a claim regarding a lack of long term vision, and then made a list of issues you find with the game, but forgot the bit that goes in between and actually creates a cohesive argument out of the two.

[Sarumoon]

Originally posted by Zeek:

Because people have been asking for it.

i guess i should have tried that

I'd Like you to make Med 3 now please, CA.

Now to just sit back, and wait..

[BIG E.]

Originally posted by Da_Higg:

Originally posted by Celery:

CA have already confirmed it (Sled) to be her fastest mount option.

Well of course, it has 6 horses so it will travel 6 times the speed of one horse. It's simple mathematics

Jokes aside the fact that the attack comes from Ice Guard implies it's going to have frostbite on the missiles so good luck catching Katarin.

Is it a horse sled?

I thought it would have bears.

[Jerroser]

The main reason a lot of people wanted it is that in the lore as far as I'm aware, she's know for using this as her primary mount, so a lot of people felt that it really should have been included for Kislev when WH3 launched.

Gameplay wise, its just more options for players to use plus its something more distinct from the existing (and rather bland) mount options most Kislev lords seem to have access to.

[Reaver79]

Originally posted by art_loots:

the point i am trying to make goes over your heads it seems.
as stated i don't mind the addition, my issue is why add it in the same patch that you add the frost wyrm mount which makes this mount overshadowed and prob never used

Might be better in say MP where a cheaper but fast mount can be strategically strong.

[SpeaksTooFast]

Originally posted by art_loots:

Originally posted by BoogerPickler:

it because the sled is being added to base game and the frost wyrm is part of dlc addition, so it is for people who don't want the dlc.

from the post, "Note: Players will only need Total War: WARHAMMER III to access this piece of free content. Ownership of the Shadows of Change DLC is not required."

finnally an answer that adresses the question.
kinda did read over the later part.

still see it as a lack of long term vision of the game though. not planning ahead

Ummm this was not your core question.

Once again we do not have stats for either mount or know for certain how they will perform in game. Monstrous mounts are nice but so are skirmish chariots. Simply assuming one is better because it's DLC does not represent "long term vision" or "planning ahead"

[Arthur two sheds Jackson]

cause people are tired of bears

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Arthur two sheds Jackson:

cause people are tired of bears

I want Swivel-Gun mounted Bears.

[Zeek]

Originally posted by SpeaksTooFast:

Ummm this was not your core question.

What is the core question anyway? Because apparently, listening to players wasn't the answer to the thread title.

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by art_loots:

the point i am trying to make goes over your heads it seems.
as stated i don't mind the addition, my issue is why add it in the same patch that you add the frost wyrm mount which makes this mount overshadowed and prob never used

Doubt many are going use the wyrm for Katarin over the sled. Have you seen the sled? It looks amazing.

[art_loots]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

Originally posted by art_loots:

the point i am trying to make goes over your heads it seems.
as stated i don't mind the addition, my issue is why add it in the same patch that you add the frost wyrm mount which makes this mount overshadowed and prob never used

Doubt many are going use the wyrm for Katarin over the sled. Have you seen the sled? It looks amazing.

so does rakarth, or setra also looks way beter on his chariot but his DPS suffers.
not hating tha katarina getting a sled at all btw. my point was that it probably get's overshadowed by other mounts like lmost every chariot mount gets.
will there be niches ofcourse there will be but it feels as usefull as a pegasusmount for a unit that also can have a flying gryphon. yes pegasus have 10 more speed yet have less ap armour and health for a minor cost increase.

Would have made more sense if we saw the wyrm with a different patch, that is all i wanted to say and even something this basic get's trown out of context here by the same people who always do this to protect CA for some reason. and that is were i state there is lack of long term vision cause it actually makes excisting units feel more fresh with minor tweeks over more patches

[Zeek]

Originally posted by art_loots:

Would have made more sense if we saw the wyrm with a different patch, that is all i wanted to say and even something this basic get's trown out of context here by the same people who always do this to protect CA for some reason. and that is were i state there is lack of long term vision cause it actually makes excisting units feel more fresh with minor tweeks over more patches

I fail to see how getting two new mounts for one faction in one patch vs 2 patches equates to a lack of long term vision.

It's a mount, not a brand new race or something huge.

[SpeaksTooFast]

Originally posted by art_loots:

Would have made more sense if we saw the wyrm with a different patch, that is all i wanted to say and even something this basic get's trown out of context here by the same people who always do this to protect CA for some reason. and that is were i state there is lack of long term vision cause it actually makes excisting units feel more fresh with minor tweeks over more patches

Long term support sounds great but withholding content is not a great biz strategy when you are trying to win back good will. Also at their current rate of DLC drops we will be lucky if they get back to Kislev again before the support window for this game runs it's course.

[SpeaksTooFast]

Originally posted by Zeek:

What is the core question anyway? Because apparently, listening to players wasn't the answer to the thread title.

I was going off of "What is the point of katarin's sled" I read the rest of the OP but it struck me as a bit unfocused and rambley.