Total War: WARHAMMER III

Total War: WARHAMMER III

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burningmime Feb 18, 2024 @ 4:54pm
How the heck am I supposed to Karl my Franz?
Attempt 1: Take all territories in Reikland. Middenheim falls. Go north to fight One-Eye. Secessionists at Axe-Bite Pass come take 2 settlements back. My army is pretty decimated after fighting One-Eye, no chance of getting those settlements back. Then Festus declares war. By turn 20, I'm back down to 2 settlements and almost no income/army.

Attempt 2: Take all territories in Reikland. Middenheim falls. Take secessionists at Axe-Bite Pass and defeat them. Army is loioking rough. Then the Orcs declare war on me. I go up to fight them at Black Pit or whatever. They take Urberisk and the other settlement behind me. Then One-Eye ambushes me. Back down to 2 settlements and almost no income/army.
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Sarumoon Feb 18, 2024 @ 5:00pm 
They are broken, and we are all waiting years for the rework. which is delayed again.

Try again in July.
Ashley Feb 18, 2024 @ 5:56pm 
You're supposed to tough through it. Did you not play ME Morathi and Imrik starts in game 2? Those are way harder.
Basarab Laiota Feb 18, 2024 @ 8:26pm 
sorry OP it sounds like you are having skill issues... lower the difficulty until you get used to the game's BS a bit more? it'll be more fun, and with a game this big it's okay to use lower difficulties to learn. :cryptothink:
DasaKamov Feb 18, 2024 @ 8:31pm 
Start by Franzing your Karl.
Chillshotz Feb 18, 2024 @ 9:19pm 
You probably missed something. I won as Karl Franz before, though its in wh2. I tried it recently, Empire factions nowadays are much easier in legendary compared to wh2 when Manfred von carstein fighting alongside Vlad.

Are you playing in legendary? If not then it should be easy.

Archaeon before was much harder stopping his 20 elite horde armies. Now he is just medium threat even if they go chaos undivided. Grimmgor is a much terrifying sight, especially if you see him allied with the chaos dwarves. Good thing there's a -100 diplomacy between them because if not it would've been an unwinnable legendary campaign if your starting point is near their proximity.
burningmime Feb 18, 2024 @ 9:34pm 
Originally posted by Chillshotz:
You probably missed something. I won as Karl Franz before, though its in wh2. I tried it recently, Empire factions nowadays are much easier in legendary compared to wh2 when Manfred von carstein fighting alongside Vlad.

Are you playing in legendary? If not then it should be easy.

Archaeon before was much harder stopping his 20 elite horde armies. Now he is just medium threat even if they go chaos undivided. Grimmgor is a much terrifying sight, especially if you see him allied with the chaos dwarves. Good thing there's a -100 diplomacy between them because if not it would've been an unwinnable legendary campaign if your starting point is near their proximity.

Dude; I ain't even got to that point. I'm just trying to do the early game.
SpeaksTooFast Feb 18, 2024 @ 9:52pm 
If you are looking for a step by step Legend is currently doing a "no defeat" livestream and has made it quite a ways in successfully. He is quite known for cheese and abusing the AI so if that is not your style feel free to ignore.

Link to part one if you are so inclined:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMMGr1cZkU4
Immortalis Feb 18, 2024 @ 10:05pm 
Originally posted by SpeaksTooFast:
If you are looking for a step by step Legend is currently doing a "no defeat" livestream and has made it quite a ways in successfully. He is quite known for cheese and abusing the AI so if that is not your style feel free to ignore.

Link to part one if you are so inclined:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMMGr1cZkU4

This
Chiller Feb 18, 2024 @ 10:17pm 
W8 for Zoo theme park mechanic in altdorf.
Nobby Feb 18, 2024 @ 10:28pm 
Originally posted by SpeaksTooFast:
If you are looking for a step by step Legend is currently doing a "no defeat" livestream and has made it quite a ways in successfully. He is quite known for cheese and abusing the AI so if that is not your style feel free to ignore.

Link to part one if you are so inclined:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMMGr1cZkU4

Doing the exact same thing. I never quite got much headway with the empire before but i was always interested in playing them.

Looking at Legends livestream really helped me out. Not really step by step guide because my campaign looked quite a bit different by turn 10 (got attacked by hobo Gandalf, Vlad suddenly appeared out of nowhere etc...) but taught me a lot on how to use empire units, what to focus on, how to get the most out of the electoral counts, diplomacy tricks etc....
Zefar Feb 18, 2024 @ 10:47pm 
Karl Franz campaign has been bumped up too Hard to Very hard due to more enemies and if your allies manage to win or not.

For example, if Kislev manages to win against the Skaven and Chaos factions you will have an easier time.
Or if Leoncur manage to defeat Kimmler and Grom you're safe from South.

But if both of those factions loses you're fighting from all sides and in the start you do not have the economy to support that many armies.
Nobby Feb 18, 2024 @ 11:09pm 
Originally posted by Nobby:
Originally posted by SpeaksTooFast:
If you are looking for a step by step Legend is currently doing a "no defeat" livestream and has made it quite a ways in successfully. He is quite known for cheese and abusing the AI so if that is not your style feel free to ignore.

Link to part one if you are so inclined:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMMGr1cZkU4

Doing the exact same thing. I never quite got much headway with the empire before but i was always interested in playing them.

Looking at Legends livestream really helped me out. Not really step by step guide because my campaign looked quite a bit different by turn 10 (got attacked by hobo Gandalf, Vlad suddenly appeared out of nowhere etc...) but taught me a lot on how to use empire units, what to focus on, how to get the most out of the electoral counts, diplomacy tricks etc....

I also don't play on legendary but on hard/normal and it "looked" like I was having to deal with more BS than Legend but I'm pretty sure because of the subtle things he does, that probably isn't the case. In my campaign so far Brettonia got utterly spanked, Marienburg got annihilated (which resulted in me getting marienburg so kind of a win afterwards), kislev is completely destroyed, Norsca invaded the North so I didn't have many allies securing my borders for me... First I focused on getting rid of the rebels and beast men.

Now turn 35 now and I secured my western flank by giving territory to Couronne, kicked out Norsca and punished Festus for existing and revived some counts and now time to focus on expanding east and getting rid of Vlad
SpeaksTooFast Feb 18, 2024 @ 11:26pm 
Originally posted by Nobby:
Not really step by step guide because my campaign looked quite a bit different by turn 10 (got attacked by hobo Gandalf, Vlad suddenly appeared out of nowhere etc...) but taught me a lot on how to use empire units, what to focus on, how to get the most out of the electoral counts, diplomacy tricks etc....
Yeah the Empire is in the middle of a lot and anything past turn 4 or 5 is going to play different just due to RNG but it still can be helpful... if for no other reason than to show that is can in fact be done.
Aleera Feb 18, 2024 @ 11:27pm 
Have you tried Gelting your Balthasar?
Immortalis Feb 18, 2024 @ 11:32pm 
Originally posted by Zefar:
Karl Franz campaign has been bumped up too Hard to Very hard due to more enemies and if your allies manage to win or not.

For example, if Kislev manages to win against the Skaven and Chaos factions you will have an easier time.
Or if Leoncur manage to defeat Kimmler and Grom you're safe from South.

But if both of those factions loses you're fighting from all sides and in the start you do not have the economy to support that many armies.

My approach is “assume everyone else is going to die and play accordingly”.
In the early campaign I do absolutely nothing to help out the elector counts, beside getting the few events that increase my imperial authority; instead I send Franz into Bretonnia alongside another half stack to fight Kemmler and Grom. Meanwhile another army protects Reikland from the beast men and the greenskins in the north.

Hardly ideal and you’re very much on a timer because you’re running a negative economy but with all the battles you’re fighting you get enough money to stay afloat if you pinch every penny you can.
Once that’s done, the second army stays in Bastonne to keep an eye on Ikit, while Franz doubles back.
It’s around turn 25 by now and the good news is that he’s going to be able to recruit better units than the spears-archers he had until now. The bad news is that generally speaking, the only electors that held on are Wissenland and good ol’ Balthasar, who are very much in the middle of fighting tooth and nail against Vlad.

At this point the game is pretty standard: reclaim Middenland, kill Festus and any Norscan who landed on the coast before doubling down on Vlad; all the while keeping an eye on Marienburg for that confederation.
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Date Posted: Feb 18, 2024 @ 4:54pm
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