Total War: WARHAMMER III

Total War: WARHAMMER III

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Will the Shadows of Change 'free' hero, Aekold Hellbrass, actually be free?
Or will you need to subscribe to Total War Access to get it?
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Argent Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:25am 
well total war access is completely free anyway so yeah hed be free, if he is in there
genericwhitemale Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:30am 
Originally posted by Ash:
well total war access is completely free anyway so yeah hed be free, if he is in there

But I wouldnt call that 'free', you're giving something in return for these '''free''' heroes when you're being requested to subscribe - data. Very valuable nowadays.

If you know you know.
Leslian Lexter Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:31am 
Originally posted by genericwhitemale:
Originally posted by Ash:
well total war access is completely free anyway so yeah hed be free, if he is in there

But I wouldnt call that 'free', you're giving something in return for these '''free''' heroes when you're being requested to subscribe - data. Very valuable nowadays.

If you know you know.
By that logic playing games will never be free, because 'Time is money frieeend'
Garatgh Deloi Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:31am 
Originally posted by genericwhitemale:
But I wouldnt call that 'free', you're giving something in return for these '''free''' heroes when you're being requested to subscribe - data. Very valuable nowadays.

If you know you know.

If having a requirement means something isn't free then nothing is free. For example, even if they removed the total war access step you would still need a Steam account (or other service) and owning the game.

When it comes to products something being free simply means (as a generalization) that there is no monetary transaction directly linked to the product (Unless its a "buy 2 get 1 free" sorta deal).
Last edited by Garatgh Deloi; Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:36am
Argent Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by genericwhitemale:
Originally posted by Ash:
well total war access is completely free anyway so yeah hed be free, if he is in there

But I wouldnt call that 'free', you're giving something in return for these '''free''' heroes when you're being requested to subscribe - data. Very valuable nowadays.

If you know you know.

um i dont get that logic lol
i mean they ust require you to subscribe and i dont think youll spend a lot of time in doing the subscription process. very easy to do
genericwhitemale Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:42am 
not sure why we've descended into debating the premise of my question, I was asking for a yes/no. But I'll bite for fun:

Originally posted by Leslian Lexter:
By that logic playing games will never be free, because 'Time is money frieeend'

No, that doesn't compute. One is an exchange of commodities by two parties, the other is an equivalency.



Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:
If having a requirement means something isn't free then nothing is free. For example, even if they removed the total war access step you would still need a Steam account (or other service) and owning the game.

A counter argument. If I'm offered a free red bull by those red bull girls then that's a free item. I have exchanged nothing physical for it. The hope that the item is so good that I'd buy it again is immaterial. We call that one 'proof by contradiction'.
Last edited by genericwhitemale; Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:43am
Leslian Lexter Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:45am 
Originally posted by genericwhitemale:
not sure why we've descended into debating the premise of my question, I was asking for a yes/no. But I'll bite for fun:

Originally posted by Leslian Lexter:
By that logic playing games will never be free, because 'Time is money frieeend'

No, that doesn't compute. One is an exchange of commodities by two parties, the other is an equivalency.



Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:
If having a requirement means something isn't free then nothing is free. For example, even if they removed the total war access step you would still need a Steam account (or other service) and owning the game.

A counter argument. If I'm offered a free red bull by those red bull girls then that's a free item. I have exchanged nothing physical for it. The hope that the item is so good that I'd buy it again is immaterial. We call that one 'proof by contradiction'.
So if they redbull girls asks you your name and wether you like cold drinks, before giving you one, you wont consider the redbull free?
Garatgh Deloi Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:48am 
Originally posted by genericwhitemale:
A counter argument. If I'm offered a free red bull by those red bull girls then that's a free item. I have exchanged nothing physical for it. The hope that the item is so good that I'd buy it again is immaterial. We call that one 'proof by contradiction'.

You aren't exchanging anything physical for the free hero either. Information isn't physical.

You do need to interact with the red bull girls, you need to spend the time, you need to spend energy taking the item. It might not be anything you put any significant value on, but requirements are still there.
Last edited by Garatgh Deloi; Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:52am
Toaster Maximus Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:48am 
You know total war access is more like signing up for a news letter that rarely sends things out, pretty free since have never gotten anything other then total war things once in a blue moon.
Elitewrecker PT Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:50am 
For the actual question - unknown, since we only know about the hero already from a leak.
genericwhitemale Jul 17, 2023 @ 5:00am 
Originally posted by Leslian Lexter:
So if they redbull girls asks you your name and wether you like cold drinks, before giving you one, you wont consider the redbull free?

Let's assume its not smalltalk (although we both know that's what youre trying to slip here)

If the company mandates the red bull girls to collect names etc., locks the drink behind that gate, then how can it be free? if I refuse to give my deets, and then all of a sudden the promise of a 'free' drink is off the table - was it actually free to begin with?

It's the principle. Total War Access is asking for my email etc. It's not free guys. Data is a commodity nowadays. Why cant they put it on the steam store like the others, like actually for free? Without any strings attached.

It's ok not to care if that's your position, I get it, it's relatively innocuous. But it ain't "free".



Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:
For the actual question - unknown, since we only know about the hero already from a leak.

Thanks
Last edited by genericwhitemale; Jul 17, 2023 @ 7:28am
Chilltex Jul 17, 2023 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by genericwhitemale:
Originally posted by Leslian Lexter:
So if they redbull girls asks you your name and wether you like cold drinks, before giving you one, you wont consider the redbull free?

Let's assume its not smalltalk (although we both know that's what youre trying to slip here)

If the company mandates the red bull girls to collect names etc., locks the drink behind that gate, then how can it be free? if I refuse to give my deets, and then all of a sudden the promise of a 'free' drink is off the table - was it actually free to begin with?

It's the principle. Total War Access is asking for my email, logging data, collates number of users etc. It's not free guys. Data is a commodity nowadays.

It's ok not to care if that's your position, I get it, it's relatively innocuous. But it ain't "free".



Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:
For the actual question - unknown, since we only know about the hero already from a leak.

Thanks

You're arguing semantics, you want the definition of "free" to be changed because of how you view the word "free". Free as in no additional cost, it all depends upon which the term "free" is used. In this case, no additional monetary cost for the customer. The only additional information total war access would gleam from you, would be email, and/or other personal info you add to that account. Simple way around it, create a non critical/not main email account for it. There is no checking other than 1 email verification, they do not verify any other personal information. So to make your "data" less valuable, give them false info. CA most likely already has your play stats, PC hardware specs etc...

So I would say you are being a bit nit picky about non essential crap. Data only has value if you give it value, which in this case proper information about yourself.
Zeek Jul 17, 2023 @ 5:42am 
Had Total War access for like 7 years now.

I can't even remember the last time I've got an email from them. I think you're safe from identity theft or other malicious intent here.

If you're that worried about it, just use burner emails and stuff.
Last edited by Zeek; Jul 17, 2023 @ 5:53am
MrSoul Jul 17, 2023 @ 5:50am 
If think youre stopping farming of your private information online by not signing up for a few marketing newsletters, then I got some news for you.
halogamb Jul 17, 2023 @ 5:55am 
Originally posted by Mr.Soul:
If think youre stopping farming of your private information online by not signing up for a few marketing newsletters, then I got some news for you.
This.
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Date Posted: Jul 17, 2023 @ 4:23am
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