why is it so impossible to buy settlements?

[Rosalina]

It's part of my province and yet I can never get it of my ally.
I tryed to give him a fully upgraded T5 city for that one minor settlement.
+150k gold and it's still at -26.
Diplomacy is a joke....
Is there a trick to it I'm not seeing?
Otherwise Im going to hack dwarfs into pieces next turn.

[Hex]

I mean, do you REALLY need that one minor settlement?

[Lost Latios]

The A.I. tends to put value into specific locations, especially if they generate income or serve as a base for their forces.

Not sure what you are trying to grab, but it looks like you either let them have it or beat them up for it as they're clearly not interested in giving it up.

[Pieshaman]

That's not the kind of ally you want or need.
Invest all that gold in armies and just take it
yes yes!

[Rosalina]

I don't think Quatar has any special value for the dwarfs.
Well, here I go killing dwarfs again.

[Pieshaman]

Originally posted by Star Princess:

I don't think Quatar has any special value for the dwarfs.

This place is literraly carved in the canyon walls of the western entrance of the charnel valley.
It's basically a karak build by the tombkings a long time ago
I can imagine dwarfs like to chill there when there are no more mummies and walking statues. There is also lots of alabaster and dwarfs like that for statues and idols.

[Captain T1]

Originally posted by Pieshaman:

Originally posted by Star Princess:

I don't think Quatar has any special value for the dwarfs.

This place is literraly carved in the canyon walls of the western entrance of the charnel valley.
It's basically a karak build by the tombkings a long time ago
I can imagine dwarfs like to chill there when there are no more mummies and walking statues. There is also lots of alabaster and dwarfs like that for statues and idols.

Does the AI even take that into consideration I wonder...

[Ashardalon]

because you are having the delusion that you have allies
or that allies want anything for the betterment of their empire
both are incorrect
all you have is the ai trying to make your rule hard
they dont care about their benefit and they definitely dont care about your alliance
they only care about making your time hard, because that is the only thing the ai cares about

[Pieshaman]

Originally posted by Captain T1:

Originally posted by Pieshaman:

This place is literraly carved in the canyon walls of the western entrance of the charnel valley.
It's basically a karak build by the tombkings a long time ago
I can imagine dwarfs like to chill there when there are no more mummies and walking statues. There is also lots of alabaster and dwarfs like that for statues and idols.

Does the AI even take that into consideration I wonder...

I always imagine it does even when it's not

[Count von Bunnyhopven]

For me its the opposite. I can often convince the AI to give me a good city in exchange for a worse city. Without any gold in between. And I dont know why?

[Tommytools]

Originally posted by Count von Bunnyhopven:

For me its the opposite. I can often convince the AI to give me a good city in exchange for a worse city. Without any gold in between. And I dont know why?

I believe the OP tried to outright buy a settlement with gold, rather than exchange settlements (with maybe a sprinkle of gold on top). I have the same experience as you trading settlements, I often capture settlements specifically for swapping it for one I want.

Edit: no, reading fail, sorry OP :)

Not sure I'd trade a T5 city away, considering the amount of gold one has to invest to get it to that point. But in my games the AI tends to value its settlements highly, but not that high, so I'm not sure what's going on there.

[Ohio9]

Originally posted by Hex:

I mean, do you REALLY need that one minor settlement?

A lot of times you do for victory conditions. For example, as the Empire I find no matter how fast I try to expand, Kislev will ALWAYS take settlements I need for victory conditions before I can get to them. And it's infuriating because Kislev would be my ideal ally. They always seem to have high relations with me, even if I don't try to make them high. I'd love to ally with them fast and set up an outpost for their units, but I can't because I inevitably need to go to war with them to take what I need for a campaign victory.

So yeah it would be nice if I could just take them peacefully with enough cash, but then again, I do see how that system could be abused, so I'm not really sure what the solution is.

[Tommytools]

Tomb Kings need specific buildings in specific regions for their victory conditions as well, iirc Quatar has a pyramid in it.

[Imposter]

Go and conquer a random settlement that you dont need, and gift it to the faction with some gold as well. I haven't tried this myself, but I'd be curious of the outcome. Because I have tried to buy a piece of land before and it was crazy, especially trying to buy from Ku'Gath who needs lots of it... Yet it still wasnt enough... No where near enough.

[Rosalina]

I gave him half his mountain to have a barrier against the lizards and chaos ♥♥♥♥♥.
Now im gonna step on him.

[zefyris]

In my last campaign I went on a shopping free for settlements and probably bought more than 10 in one turn, and above 40 in total during the whole campaign. Most of them for pretty much nothing. Quite hilarious tbh.