OP Characters

[Dark (-z-) Light]

Anyone find having overpowered battlefield generals totally screws with the battles? Pretty sure I would have won an epic match up, except 1 character wiped the floor with my army on his own. It also looks and feels dumb with one guy tanking 1000+ guys on their own and goes against what total war should be about imo. I get characters need to be stronger and more powerful than the rank and file - especially in Warhammer, but its getting like a gear based RPG.

[Isaac]

in older games, some units also could get over 1000 kills in the rist situation. this is nothing new

[Who trains thy hands for war?]

block him with cavalry and or shoot him down with guns/cannons

if he's not unbreakable then destroy the rest of his army; he will run when his army collapses

[Dark (-z-) Light]

Nothing new you're right - but far more of an issue in this game.

Not looking for tips on how to win against it - I just don't think the problem should exist in the first place.

[Fryskar]

A few ai lords can do this.
Many can if the player controls them.

[Jerroser]

Some characters certainly are virtually 1 man armies, especially during the mid-late campaign once they're a decently high level. But really its something you just have to account for when going in to battle and if not counter then, at least find a way to neutralise them for as much of the fight as possible.

There certainly are ways to deal with a lot of them though, either targeting them down with another character of your own, focus firing them at range or something it works to simply take out the rest of their army then the army losses leadership debuff should kick in causing them to auto route/crumble. Plus different characters have different specialities, some are simply designed for fighting masses of enemy units others are more duellists intended for tacking on other characters or single entities.

[light bulb]

Originally posted by Isaac:

in older games, some units also could get over 1000 kills in the rist situation. this is nothing new

1000 ? some charaters in wh2 can 3000 without sword of khaine,

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by edik:

Originally posted by Isaac:

in older games, some units also could get over 1000 kills in the rist situation. this is nothing new

1000 ? some charaters in wh2 can 3000 without sword of khaine,

Its only a question of what you throw at them.

[Verchial]

Almost everyone thats played this game for awhile know that Vlad is a one-man doomstack.

And Taurox, Malus and Skarbrand.

But there are plenty of other less famous OMDs such as Volkmar and Morghur. I’m probably wrong, but I think Morghur with the SoK is the most dangerous single entity in the whole game.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Dark(-z-)Light:

Anyone find having overpowered battlefield generals totally screws with the battles? Pretty sure I would have won an epic match up, except 1 character wiped the floor with my army on his own. It also looks and feels dumb with one guy tanking 1000+ guys on their own and goes against what total war should be about imo. I get characters need to be stronger and more powerful than the rank and file - especially in Warhammer, but its getting like a gear based RPG.

Some of the legendary characters are literal avatars of gods. It is perfectly fitting within the Warhammer context. Moreover, I keep hearing this "one OP enemy character wipes out my entire army" complaints, but I'd never seen it happen in my games. I suspect you are either exaggerating - or playing the game improperly.

[Isaac]

Originally posted by edik:

Originally posted by Isaac:

in older games, some units also could get over 1000 kills in the rist situation. this is nothing new

1000 ? some charaters in wh2 can 3000 without sword of khaine,

I actualy was talking about non warhammer games. in rome 2, some units could have over 1k kills

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by Verchial:

Almost everyone thats played this game for awhile know that Vlad is a one-man doomstack.

And Taurox, Malus and Skarbrand.

But there are plenty of other less famous OMDs such as Volkmar and Morghur. I’m probably wrong, but I think Morghur with the SoK is the most dangerous single entity in the whole game.

Before gear Morghur is the most dangerous lord to most multi model units.
I'd rate volkmar at best medicore. Yes, his bombardments do some dmg, but its just not enough to rival some other killers.

[Shellbie]

Originally posted by Dark(-z-)Light:

Anyone find having overpowered battlefield generals totally screws with the battles? Pretty sure I would have won an epic match up, except 1 character wiped the floor with my army on his own. It also looks and feels dumb with one guy tanking 1000+ guys on their own and goes against what total war should be about imo. I get characters need to be stronger and more powerful than the rank and file - especially in Warhammer, but its getting like a gear based RPG.

Failure is the mother of success.

[Hex]

Oh, is this another complaint thread about Vlad?

We haven't had those in... days!

[Who trains thy hands for war?]

Originally posted by Hurricane:

Originally posted by Who trains thy hands for war?:

block him with cavalry and or shoot him down with guns/cannons

if he's not unbreakable then destroy the rest of his army; he will run when his army collapses

Wut? And kill all your cav in ff?

No easiest way to kill lords is shooting them with ap ranged units... not cannons even large dragon rider lords will dodge cannons and never fall to them

move the cav first duh

the 2nd part of your post. use the cav to block the dragon, and herd them away from your ranged

you're welcome

btw vampire coast can most certainly even alpha strike with cannons because of gunnery wight + extra powder.

but if you are another faction with cavalry that can herd the monsters, dragons, lords, we can be content with damage over time

[Who trains thy hands for war?]

off topic i just have to be narcy and accept that cav haters were wrong all along, and boldly speak truths