is worth buyng now? (hate cheating AI)

[Bersicker]

i initially loved the first and second chapter until i realized there are complete abscence of a true AI. Enemies army spawns from nowhere even if that faction should not be economically able to have that numbers. I mean the AI is just throwing armies at you with no map or strategic logic, is just spamming high numbers out of nowhere without any game sense. Same for diplomacy. Those things made me leave and hate the old chapters and im very afraid to buy and wasting time with this one. Will i have the same experience?

Pls no fanboys or haters, is just a matter of taste.

[Dr. Uncredible]

Yes. Yes you will.

[SirKingJof]

The a.i doesn't cheat, never has in TWW, it needs the infrastructure to build what it has, nor do it's armies spawn from thin air. However, on anything above normal it does get significant economic and combat bonuses that can make it seem that way if you don't know what's going on. The bonuses include having lower costs and lower upkeep and boosts to morale.

If you found those things a deal breaker in the other games you won't find it any better here.

[Enelith]

Originally posted by Dr. Uncredible:

Yes. Yes you will.

what made you think it would be different yet ? Until you heard from a huge announcement or a huge brand new TW, I see no reason otherwise.

[Hex]

Originally posted by SirKingJof:

The a.i doesn't cheat,

This is a blatant and demonstrable LIE. Actual modders who have popped the hood and read the code know exactly how, there are detailed explanations online if you actually cared enough to read.

[LaundryMaster]

if the ai wouldnt cheat this game would turn wayyy too easy. im fine with the cheats, its the anti-player bias thats the problem.

[dot]

That`s Total War for you xD. Maybe you can find fair AI in other RTS or grand strategy games, Idk i haven`t played any in recent years except AoE2 and TW:WH, in AoE2 it is fair and probably the reason why even me, a scrub that gets his butt handed frequently in mp, could beat the AI in top difficulty after a couple of matches learning when I re-grabbed the game. But in TW as you increase the difficulty settings you increase the advantages that the AI get: https://totalwarwarhammer.fandom.com/wiki/Difficulty

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by Hex:

Originally posted by SirKingJof:

The a.i doesn't cheat,

This is a blatant and demonstrable LIE. Actual modders who have popped the hood and read the code know exactly how, there are detailed explanations online if you actually cared enough to read.

They don't pop armies they cna't build from nowhere though.
Maybe he should have said "they don't cheat like the OP described".
They have economic bonuses that allow them to have more armies than the player and recruit them quicker but not instantly or without having the required buildings.

[Hex]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Originally posted by Hex:

This is a blatant and demonstrable LIE. Actual modders who have popped the hood and read the code know exactly how, there are detailed explanations online if you actually cared enough to read.

They don't pop armies they cna't build from nowhere though.
Maybe he should have said "they don't cheat like the OP described".

It just seems they pop armies out of nowhere because some factions have massive recruitment per turn pools with basic and global combined, and since AI doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about cost it can recruit full stacks ridiculously fast. Factions like Skaven, Greenskins and Bretonnia for example.

[Zeek]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Originally posted by Hex:

This is a blatant and demonstrable LIE. Actual modders who have popped the hood and read the code know exactly how, there are detailed explanations online if you actually cared enough to read.

They don't pop armies they cna't build from nowhere though.
Maybe he should have said "they don't cheat like the OP described".
They have economic bonuses that allow them to have more armies than the player and recruit them quicker but not instantly or without having the required buildings.

Thread answer.

Ai plays by the same rules as player for the most part, they just get more bonuses the higher the difficulty gets.

[Bersicker]

Originally posted by LaundryMaster:

if the ai wouldnt cheat this game would turn wayyy too easy. im fine with the cheats, its the anti-player bias thats the problem.

That's the point. Is a matter of taste. I felt the game AI have a different ruleset than the player. In my experience the AI behave more like a tower defence game rather than a strategic war game. Im disappointed because the others aspects of the game, art-graphic design, real time battles and music are gorgeus. =(

Originally posted by dot:

That`s Total War for you xD. Maybe you can find fair AI in other RTS or grand strategy games, Idk i haven`t played any in recent years except AoE2 and TW:WH, in AoE2 it is fair and probably the reason why even me, a scrub that gets his butt handed frequently in mp, could beat the AI in top difficulty after a couple of matches learning when I re-grabbed the game. But in TW as you increase the difficulty settings you increase the advantages that the AI get: https://totalwarwarhammer.fandom.com/wiki/Difficulty

I play many others RTS and grand strategy games, and never felt that sense of cheating AI.

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by Hex:

Originally posted by SirKingJof:

The a.i doesn't cheat,

This is a blatant and demonstrable LIE. Actual modders who have popped the hood and read the code know exactly how, there are detailed explanations online if you actually cared enough to read.

Cheats =/= playing with boosts. Its strictly abiding the rules set for it.

About every single last game gives some kind of boosts to the ai, the more the higher the difficulty. Tw isn't any different.

[LaundryMaster]

Originally posted by Hurricane:

Ai has to cheat or there's no game... you think if it did exactly what the player did the game would be fun?

Do you know why people love xcom? Because the game literally scams you...you can miss 100% shots in that game lol...

It is annoying to shred stacks to get attacked by a stack out the fog I'm not gonna lie but if the ai was a push over and it basically is at a point... the game would be no fun w

this game feels too easy even on very hard so imagine if the ai got no upkeep reductions, more income etc..

[Dr. Uncredible]

I personally never like the use of the word "Cheat" in this contest.

If I compete against an opponent, and were both trying to win, and are supposed to be competing on equal terms, but your opponent has found a way to break the rules of the game, like hacking in a pvp game - then that is cheating.

The computer cannot by definition cheat, because it isn´t you opponent, it is the playing field.
It is not trying to win, it´s supposed to lose, and to provide an interesting, somewhat challenging, somewhat immersive challenge while losing to you.
Nor can it break the rules of the game; it is built from the rules of the game, it -is- the rules of the game.
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This is all of course semantics, and calling the AI players "cheats" works; people know what you mean.

[BoogerPickler]

"i initially loved the first and second chapter until i realized there are complete abscence of a true AI."
So you loved it until someone told you shouldn't?

[Eldi]

Originally posted by BoogerPickler:

"i initially loved the first and second chapter until i realized there are complete abscence of a true AI."
So you loved it until someone told you shouldn't?

Thread answer.
There's very few strategy games in which the AI doesn't cheat to some extent.