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Eldyra

Jun 20, 2023 @ 11:04am

Hotseat mode?

I'm interested in hotseat mode, and would sign a petition if one existed in support of hotseat mode being added. Does anyone know of such?

Edit: Here is a link to such a petition, courtesy of Puggly - https://chng.it/2kYp2NTWFP

Last edited by Eldyra; Jun 21, 2023 @ 9:48am

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Originally posted by Puggly the Grey:

Originally posted by PhotriusPyrelus:
I think the OP should probably be edited to explain what Hotseat mode is, and why it's a good thing worthy of implementation.

Don wury fren, I got chu.

The following text is courtesy of Central the Goat, who is also the G.O.A.T!

Why do we need a Hotseat mode?

There are multiple reasons for implementing a Hotseat mode.
* opening up the multiplayer only scenario's for those who do not have a gaming group or those that have no desire to have human interaction while gaming
* creating epic scale showdowns which will actually be fought until the end
* staving off campaign fatigue

How would Battles work when multiple player controlled factions face off?

The player would be asked which side they wish to control manually.
The AI will control the other factions in that battle.

Multiplayer only scenarios

Multiplayer is an interesting way of playing Warhammer III but it is not for everyone.

A multiplayer campaign can take a long time, and it is not always feasible to create a schedule that works for all participants.
Even when you manage to find a time which works for all participants, it is quite possible that work schedules change or that social engagements can disrupt your plans, causing people to cancel game night a few times until a campaign gets cancelled completely.

We should also not forget that a lot of people are required to interact with other humans on many occasions, such as work, at home with family and when going out for drinks.

For some people gaming is their escape from the real world, something to enjoy alone, it is their respite from the day to day issues that plague them, interacting with other people might interfere with that.

Last we should not ignore the people that do not have anyone to play with, some people just don't have friends that are interested in the same games they are interested in. Hotseat mode allows them to simulate the experience of playing with friends.

Whatever the reason for not playing multiplayer is, the simple fact remains that the wonderful scenario's that were developed for multiplayer will be unavailable for those who do not venture into the multiplayer aspect of this game.

Hotseat mode would be a viable solution to all these concerns, and allow everyone to enjoy the the full breadth of Warhammer III's content.

Epic Showdowns

While a single player campaign is a lot of fun you will be rolling the dice on which way the AI preforms.

You have no impact on which AI faction will be dominant.
If you are desperate to create or recreate some epic showdowns between two, or more, specific factions than you are forced to turn to multiplayer. (For example the War of Vengeance / War of the Beards)
Even if players find a gaming group that manages to stick to a regular schedule than there is still a big chance that the game will end once a player starts losing.
It is a very common practice for the losing player in any multiplayer game to surrender before they are completely destroyed in order to maximize the amount of fun they can have with the limited game time available.

A Warhammer Total War campaign can take a long time to complete and not everyone wants to fight it until the end.
Hotseat mode would allow player to create these epic showdowns alone, players would be able to set up multiple factions to be dominant in their region and than create a final face off between those factions. fighting it until the bitter end.

Campaign Fatigue
The map in immortal empires is quite large, finishing it is a challenge to some people but painting the map is even more of a challenge.

One of the many challenges for painting the map is the fact that there are limited options in the late game when it comes to armies, some units will simply become obsolete.

This means that you will be fighting a lot of battles using the same army compositions simply because not all units are viable in the end game.

Some factions also have few tactical options available to them, which means that you fight almost every battle with the same playbook.

These limitations of factions do make for an interesting experience, but in the long run it can become repetitive, causing players to abandon their campaigns.

While controlling allies is already a good step forward in fighting this campaign fatigue the questionable army compositions of the AI can cause issues.

Even when the AI makes good armies they are not always what you want to control.
Allied recruitment is also an interesting step forward but because of the limitations on that mechanic it will not change your tactical options too much.

There are no tech or lord boosts which limit the viability of units, and with the limit of 4 allied units per army it will not alter your tactical options as much as you might want.

Having Hotseat mode would allow players to control multiple factions with very different playstyles, it would also allow players to create their own allied and enemy armies, maximizing the diversity in playstyles.

Instead of fighting multiple battles with the same armies players would be able to mix things up a bit, keeping things interesting for longer.
-Central the Goat

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Puggly the Grey has Total War: WARHAMMER III

Jun 20, 2023 @ 11:06am

I do fren, here chu are.

https://chng.it/2kYp2NTWFP

SBA77

Jun 20, 2023 @ 11:07am

Well it just so happens there already is one, 121 people have already signed it:

https://chng.it/2kYp2NTWFP

Eldyra

Jun 20, 2023 @ 11:07am

Originally posted by Puggly the Grey:
I do fren, here chu are. :donpug:
https://chng.it/2kYp2NTWFP

Thank you. Let's see how many signatures we can get.

halogamb

Jun 20, 2023 @ 11:15am

Keep fighting the good fight

jonoliveira12 has Total War: WARHAMMER III

Jun 20, 2023 @ 11:24am

And Puggly rallies!

Zeek

Jun 20, 2023 @ 11:33am

I would also sign a petition to include Eldyra in the game as a LL or LH.

Puggly the Grey has Total War: WARHAMMER III

Jun 20, 2023 @ 11:36am

Originally posted by halogamb:
Keep fighting the good fight

I'll do my best, fren, thank you for the encouragement!

Funky Monk has Total War: WARHAMMER III

Jun 20, 2023 @ 11:38am

Hotseat mode till the end!

Last edited by Funky Monk; Jun 20, 2023 @ 11:38am

TamoDogo

Jun 20, 2023 @ 11:49am

Haha one closes, another opens <3

chickabumpbump has Total War: WARHAMMER III

(Banned) Jun 20, 2023 @ 11:51am

I would love a mode about this and was about to create a thread on the same subject! I personally would play as the empire and dawi.

Hey! Let’s all discuss who we would use

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jonoliveira12 has Total War: WARHAMMER III

Jun 20, 2023 @ 12:00pm

Originally posted by chickabumpbump:
I would love a mode about this and was about to create a thread on the same subject! I personally would play as the empire and dawi.

Hey! Let’s all discuss who we would use

I wouldn't even use, I just want Puggly to have it.

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PhotriusPyrelus has Total War: WARHAMMER III

Jun 20, 2023 @ 12:15pm

To repeat my last post in the previous thread: Every time I play Lizard Mans (which is almost all I play) the lack of hot-seat mode makes me big-sad.

I have to watch as the AI flounders like a fish-out-of-water unable to use its superior Saurus warrirors and Skink skirmishers to thrash their nearby competition into the dirt, completely unable to assist them, as I have my own wars to wage (particularly as Oxylotl, who is by FAR the most fun faction. The lord himself isn't that fun, though his army being mostly stealthed skinks is pretty great).

I imagine if I ever played Empire or High Elves it would also be frustrating watching their subfactions fall one after the other to the hordes surrounding the nobel bastion of civilization.

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SBA77

Jun 20, 2023 @ 12:21pm

Originally posted by PhotriusPyrelus:
To repeat my last post in the previous thread: Every time I play Lizard Mans (which is almost all I play) the lack of hot-seat mode makes me big-sad.

I have to watch as the AI flounders like a fish-out-of-water unable to use its superior Saurus warrirors and Skink skirmishers to thrash their nearby competition into the dirt, completely unable to assist them, as I have my own wars to wage (particularly as Oxylotl, who is by FAR the most fun faction. The lord himself isn't that fun, though his army being mostly stealthed skinks is pretty great).

Ah I see, using Hotseat mode to create the lizardman hivemind. Yes, quite inventive.

Last edited by SBA77; Jun 20, 2023 @ 12:22pm

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Puggly the Grey has Total War: WARHAMMER III

Jun 20, 2023 @ 12:28pm

Originally posted by SBA77:
Originally posted by PhotriusPyrelus:
To repeat my last post in the previous thread: Every time I play Lizard Mans (which is almost all I play) the lack of hot-seat mode makes me big-sad.

I have to watch as the AI flounders like a fish-out-of-water unable to use its superior Saurus warrirors and Skink skirmishers to thrash their nearby competition into the dirt, completely unable to assist them, as I have my own wars to wage (particularly as Oxylotl, who is by FAR the most fun faction. The lord himself isn't that fun, though his army being mostly stealthed skinks is pretty great).
Ah I see, using Hotseat mode to create the lizardman hivemind. Yes, quite inventive.

Chu know, lorewise, that even kind of makes sense.

THAT’S what geomantic web is missing, it should have some kind of thingy that let’s you influence the decisions of other Lizardmen factions, maybe…I don’t know.