Just finished Tzeentch campaign

[dhari]

Only 2.8% played him successfully to end (hard). Is he an unpopular faction, or does everyone only play IE. What about u? What is the percentage of your achieved campaign (legy hero)?

[Imposter]

Maybe some people dont care for the battle play-style, or care about Kairos campaign mechanics. There have been a few complaints about the faction. Probably not just the fact that maybe some people have difficulty with it, but also maybe that others dont think it that fun. The start of an IE campaign can seem overwhelming for people that jump straight into it, before RoC with Kairos.

[Lamp]

He's my fav chaos aesthetically so I've tried to enjoy his campaign multiple times and I just can't. Tend to play on VH/VH.

I don't like Kairos' units or 'casters-are-super-clutch' play style, it's extremely heavy on the micro. Plus his econ game is kinda weak, grows slow etc. Takes a long while before you can start really meaningfully changing the ways.

Have played a few of his campaigns in IE with both vanilla and start-swapped starts and yeah it just always comes down to the units really. I tend to get way too bored with him by lategame, (whereas usually I finish all my campaigns.)

Edit: man and I just gotta say I really do love Tzeentch aesthetics. The blue and gold, the dark, sparkling landscapes. Looking forward to Tzeentch's update.

[MrSoul]

I think it is a mix of two things.
1. Yeah, most peeps are playing IE especially by now.
2. Got a rough campaign from what I've heard, so most folks prob lean towards another faction if they're into chaos.

Daniel, Legendary, currently at 1.8% global completion rate for me to your last Q.
Edit: the non VH/leg completion is 4.8% for ol' Danny boy, so he's not very popular either by that marker, that or just reflective too of how many peeps don't really finish campaigns/even played RoC maybe.

[leandrombraz]

Kislev and Cathay were the most popular races on RoC before IE launched. People that played the prologue felt encouraged to try either Kislev or the Daemons of Chaos to continue the story, and, even though both campaigns are hard, playing as Daemons felt much worse than as Kislev, so people ended up finishing more Kislev campaigns. Cathay was the best choice if you wanted an easy/fair campaign. Players also have a tendency to choose human factions or factions that are perceived as good on this kind of game. Among the monogod factions, Khorne was the most fleshed out, and they had the easiest campaign. On top of all that, RoC isn't as replayable as IE, so a lot of people ended up playing only once.

[Zeek]

Originally posted by dhari:

Only 2.8% played him successfully to end (hard). Is he an unpopular faction, or do everyone only play IE. What about u? What is the percentage of your achieved campain (legy hero)?

The vast majority of people don't complete campaigns period. Vh/Leg Slaanesh, ogres, and daemon prince completions don't even have 1% more than tzeentch.

That being said, tzeentch has always been one of the least popular chaos factions behind nurgle and khorne in that order.

Now he has to compete with other way more popular factions like Empire and Kislev in IE

[Lamp]

Originally posted by Mr.Soul:

Daniel, Legendary, currently at 1.8% global completion rate for me to your last Q.
Edit: the non VH/leg completion is 4.8% for ol' Danny boy, so he's not very popular either by that marker, that or just reflective too of how many peeps don't really finish campaigns/even played RoC maybe.

I'd guess it's an RoC thing. Have played Danny plenty of times and enjoyed it all the way through in IE. Absolutely hated his RoC starting area and RoC in general.

[MrSoul]

Originally posted by Lamp:

Originally posted by Mr.Soul:

Daniel, Legendary, currently at 1.8% global completion rate for me to your last Q.
Edit: the non VH/leg completion is 4.8% for ol' Danny boy, so he's not very popular either by that marker, that or just reflective too of how many peeps don't really finish campaigns/even played RoC maybe.

I'd guess it's an RoC thing. Have played Danny plenty of times and enjoyed it all the way through in IE. Absolutely hated his RoC starting area and RoC in general.

There's a tipping point with him, once I took over Norsca and finished up the race, became pretty fun/one sided romp through Empire etc, but also just having fun with ascended generals at that point.

[dhari]

Originally posted by Lamp:

He's my fav chaos aesthetically so I've tried to enjoy his campaign multiple times and I just can't. Tend to play on VH/VH.

I don't like Kairos' units or 'casters-are-super-clutch' play style, it's extremely heavy on the micro. Plus his econ game is kinda weak, grows slow etc. Takes a long while before you can start really meaningfully changing the ways.

Have played a few of his campaigns in IE with both vanilla and start-swapped starts and yeah it just always comes down to the units really. I tend to get way too bored with him by lategame, (whereas usually I finish all my campaigns.)

Edit: man and I just gotta say I really do love Tzeentch aesthetics. The blue and gold, the dark, sparkling landscapes. Looking forward to Tzeentch's update.

Yeah. I struggled with recruiting a second army. It tooked so long. I got the feeling, this faction is more focused on range, than other chaos

[Cyiel]

Kairos campaign pre-nerf and pre-WoC dlc was really really rough because you lacked high tier anti-large units and no real frontline it was so problematic that the final battle was a nightmare (pre-nerf you had to kill every soulgrinders) and also because Tzeentch towers are bad, it didn't help either to deal with the endless waves of ennemies.

But with the nerf and WoC it shouldn't be that hard to do it now, but the next dlc will expand Tzeentch roster so it's maybe better to wait one or two months.

[dhari]

Originally posted by Mr.Soul:

2. Got a rough campaign from what I've heard, so most folks prob lean towards another faction if they're into chaos.

I had to restart 5 times ^^ .. Early gameplay is rly rough. Especially Cathay as ur neighbour. They force u into war. No matter what u do.

[MrSoul]

Oh ya that would do it lol. I made the dedicated decision on turn 1 of my daniel campaign to just stay the f away from the east, least they gain LoS and come on over xD

[dhari]

Originally posted by Zeek:

Originally posted by dhari:

Only 2.8% played him successfully to end (hard). Is he an unpopular faction, or do everyone only play IE. What about u? What is the percentage of your achieved campain (legy hero)?

The vast majority of people don't complete campaigns period. Vh/Leg Slaanesh, ogres, and daemon prince completions don't even have 1% more than tzeentch.

That being said, tzeentch has always been one of the least popular chaos factions behind nurgle and khorne in that order.

Now he has to compete with other way more popular factions like Empire and Kislev in IE

After Patch 4.0 + adding achievements for IE, Slaanesh is the next big thing for me ^^
Can't wait.

[Dallar]

RoC is pretty damn boring, so I don't think achieves from there reflect race popularity all that well.

[Lamp]

I put off trying N'kari for the longest time and it turned out to be my fav chaos by far. One of my fav factions even. Plenty of helpful campaign mechanics, roster of fast armor piercing units and the *best* names and flavour dialogues. All with a sexy crustacean theme.

[Kristowis]

Finished the RoC Kairos campaign on very hard the other day. Battles were mostly about proper use of spells, specifically spamming Infernal Gateway on blobs. Most sieges could be downright cheesed since the AI loved blobbing up units in narrow passages.