Allying the Empire with the Changeling, is it reasonably feasible?

[Diro Goodboy]

Just random thought could I use the Cults to farm enough positive diplomacy with the Empire to the point I can ally them? I know you can basically bribe your way into anything but would it be like a reasonable strategy?

[Avallac]

You can ally with anyone if you fight same factions they are fighting (enough) so its definitely possible without just wasting huge amounts of gold.

[Falaris]

... although by default, it's a pretty hard alliance to pull off and, even more importantly, keep. If you ware willing to make it a permanent job, though, yeah, I think it's doable.

[OpalGotMyHeart]

itd be tricky but i think if you were to focus your attention on festus wihtin the empire then take on the norscan territories you may be able to get them to ally with you, the fact that you cant take territory though is what makes it hard, as normally youd take high value territory from festus then gift it to the empire in exchange for their loyalty, but since that isnt possible as the changeling your going to have to aim for a long con.

[BoogerPickler]

with enough of these pos dip buildings you can be friends with enemies.

[jackhickman999]

You can do it. It's actually pretty easy. Does anything matter playing the changeling? You're unkillable. You spread everywhere and you do schemes. You make massive amounts of bank. You ask yourself were you even playing a game. The AI can't do anything. I think a human player couldn't get rid of you. There's an optimal way to play sure but it hardly matters.

[jackhickman999]

Originally posted by Tunguska:

This, but a good player can probably kill you eventually, since they can reveal your armies with a building, and removing cults just takes a bunch of heroes and/or buildings to stack detection. Still would take insane amounts of effort, considering they need to take every settlement that has a cult (which essentially means world conquest, because you have portals as the Changeling).

Of course, this is all assuming the Changeling player doesn't sabotage the ♥♥♥♥ out of them, in which case they probably won't manage to do it.

Even with a player knowing to find cults etc. I doubt anyone would even do a head to head against someone doing that. You'd have to fight the AI over the top of the cults as well as him. You'd have deal with changing of the ways. You'd have to likely go to every continent. Sounds like the worst head to head in history. No one would have the time to play a head to head like that. You'd both be bored before the end. Maybe on normal or hard the AI wouldn't be too much of problem but anything else changing of ways would be unbearable.

[CrUsHeR]

Problem is that your empire grand scheme causes all empire factions to be permanently hostile to each other. So they don't really make useful allies / vassals.


Vlad also has something like -100 aversion, but he is practically your natural "ally" after sending your first trickster cultist to Drakenhof with a Symbiotic Cult.

Or rather, you don't ally him, but if you let him conquer the Empire, he provides all the gold and infrastructure you need. A safe place to raise armies & use the portals to other regions.

[BoogerPickler]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Problem is that your empire grand scheme causes all empire factions to be permanently hostile to each other. So they don't really make useful allies / vassals.


Vlad also has something like -100 aversion, but he is practically your natural "ally" after sending your first trickster cultist to Drakenhof with a Symbiotic Cult.

Or rather, you don't ally him, but if you let him conquer the Empire, he provides all the gold and infrastructure you need. A safe place to raise armies & use the portals to other regions.

it sounds like a perfect opportunity to buddy up with karl and help him reclaim the empire. best buddies forever

[Zeek]

I befriended the empire as changling back when soc first came out.

It's feasible, takes a while though, and I'm not really a fan of doing it, but it can be fun for the lulz and role play reasons.