Is it reasonable to hope for the removal of Denuvo in the future?

[RedHaze1911]

I mean, they will stop producing content at some point. The game will be done. And it will be hacked and online with all the DLCs also. Does CA have a history of removing Denuvo in their older games that have already been cracked and dont really sell? Cause i absolutely hate the fact that my game copy has to be online once per month for denuvo to call home, otherwise my game gets locked. I dont want my games dependent on internet access in any way. I wonder if theres a way to bypass the timed tokens or if theres hope they remove it down the line in a few years time once the game is done adding content?

[Elitewrecker PT]

Wh1 and 2 still have it and theyve been cracked with all content for years so...

[Mazisky]

I don't think Denuvo is an issue.

There are way worse problems with the game than Denuvo.

Although it was fun seeing that there are some Denuvo fans who defend it at all costs, I never thought they could exist.

[Captain T1]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Wh1 and 2 still have it and theyve been cracked with all content for years so...

[Eldi]

Originally posted by Mazisky:

I don't think Denuvo is an issue.

Denuvo defender found.

[Mr Fred]

Originally posted by Eldi:

Originally posted by Mazisky:

I don't think Denuvo is an issue.

Denuvo defender found.

Tinfoil hat wearer confirmed... Which brand do you usually use?

[Isaac]

I mean, why would they? it wouldn't bring them any money, so they won't do that

[chronoss2008]

Originally posted by RedHaze1911:

I mean, they will stop producing content at some point. The game will be done. And it will be hacked and online with all the DLCs also. Does CA have a history of removing Denuvo in their older games that have already been cracked and dont really sell? Cause i absolutely hate the fact that my game copy has to be online once per month for denuvo to call home, otherwise my game gets locked. I dont want my games dependent on internet access in any way. I wonder if theres a way to bypass the timed tokens or if theres hope they remove it down the line in a few years time once the game is done adding content?

nope not gonna hpppen get a super computer or ...play farmville

[Eldi]

Originally posted by Mr Fred:

Originally posted by Eldi:

Denuvo defender found.

Tinfoil hat wearer confirmed... Which brand do you usually use?

Tinfoil?
Whatever is cheapest per M²
Can get through a fair amount when having an afternoon session on the forums.
Prices are going up as we all know.

But for topic, personally, I'm very interested in the supposed '3rd party testing with/without' and hope it's done by someone semi trustworthy (aka not in house)

I have strong doubts it affects the majority of users in a meaningful way.

[Zeek]

Originally posted by Arti_Sel:

Also Denuvo is still horrible and can ♥♥♥♥ up performance in games. It's another layer of spaghetti code that can do a lot of random ♥♥♥♥ at specific points and it's always going to steal some passive fps.

There has been 0 evidence to support this claim unless something new has came up as recent as this year.

At worst, prior reputable tests have been inconclusive.

[Eldi]

Originally posted by Zeek:

Originally posted by Arti_Sel:

Also Denuvo is still horrible and can ♥♥♥♥ up performance in games. It's another layer of spaghetti code that can do a lot of random ♥♥♥♥ at specific points and it's always going to steal some passive fps.

There has been 0 evidence to support this claim unless something new has came up as recent as this year.

At worst, prior reputable tests have been inconclusive.

I agree but the passive FPS part would be accurate. It does 'something'.

But if it's 2 FPS and you still have 87 for example... is it noticeable.

No.

[Mazisky]

Originally posted by Eldi:

Originally posted by Zeek:

There has been 0 evidence to support this claim unless something new has came up as recent as this year.

At worst, prior reputable tests have been inconclusive.

I agree but the passive FPS part would be accurate. It does 'something'.

But if it's 2 FPS and you still have 87 for example... is it noticeable.

No.

True, especially since Wh3 has performance issues by its own anyway, regardless of Denuvo!

[Zeek]

Originally posted by Eldi:

Originally posted by Zeek:

There has been 0 evidence to support this claim unless something new has came up as recent as this year.

At worst, prior reputable tests have been inconclusive.

I agree but the passive FPS part would be accurate. It does 'something'.

But if it's 2 FPS and you still have 87 for example... is it noticeable.

No.

It's also worth considering that how the devs integrate it plays a huge deal.

For example, if they put the calls to check for validity in say the rendering code, it indeed may cause some fps drops, but that's on the dev side and not denuvo.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Keyword "up".
Effect varies a lot per game.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Well yes, but what if it's 1%? We can't know unless we have a no-denuvo version to compare with.

[Zeek]

Originally posted by Arti_Sel:

Originally posted by Zeek:

There has been 0 evidence to support this claim unless something new has came up as recent as this year.

At worst, prior reputable tests have been inconclusive.

That's another lie out of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_DD-txK9_Q

I don't know what compels you to lie in favor of corporate on every single topic.

Denuvo is especially bad with loadtimes, up to 500% increase when loading into games.

First of all, I've not seen this video so thanks for sharing.

So it increased some load times for some games in some curcumstances and made almost no difference in gameplay fps. How damning, I suppose?

I particularly enjoyed all the admitted issues they encountered trying to make these comparisons and the commentary from a pirate advocating againsit it. I'm sure these items did not affect testing in the slightest.

I know you have a passion for bashing games and developers, so thank you again for providing this devastating evidence of how awful it is for gamers.