Kdaai destroyers have 90 armor

[KaBandha]

So a robotic construct filled with lava has a whooping 90 armor. For example Dread Saurian has 100 armor, is its skin stronger than metal? But then again, this is a game where goblins have silver shields kekw

[Centurion Teri]

Natural toughness

[Elitewrecker PT]

And infernal firesworn have 150 or so.

[Cyiel]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

And infernal firesworn have 150 or so.

With a lot of buffs from tech, forge, etc. Not vanilla.

Originally posted by KaBandha:

So a robotic construct filled with lava has a whooping 90 armor. For example Dread Saurian has 100 armor, is its skin stronger than metal? But then again, this is a game where goblins have silver shields kekw

Dread Saurian has no physical resistance, K'daai have a base 10% which is better than 10 armor.

[ChuTheMan]

just forgettingthe 10% base physical resistance + the extra 10% he can get from one of his abilities. (so up to 20% in total)
it also got higher melee defense than the saurian

armor is not everything.

EDIT: but i do agree, 90 do seem to be a bit in the lower end of what i would expect, lucky for us its something CA can change in a balance fix without any real issues.

[Enelith]

Don't worry, being the latest DLC, CD will be bonkers...

[ChuTheMan]

Originally posted by Cyiel:

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

And infernal firesworn have 150 or so.

With a lot of buffs from tech, forge, etc. Not vanilla.

The non-buffed ones have 125 armor.

[Cyiel]

Originally posted by ChuTheMan:

Originally posted by Cyiel:

With a lot of buffs from tech, forge, etc. Not vanilla.

The non-buffed ones have 125 armor.

Pretty close to Ironbreakers (120 125 from roster reveal for the 3.0) or Black Guards (110) or Phoenix Guard (100). And we need to remember that above 100 armor becomes less interesting due to the formula. (Armor reduction is a random value between 50% and 100% of the armor stat for people who don't know)

For me the 90 armor with 10% physical resistance seems ok... but the HP is a bit low (Dread Saurian are above 14k, K'daai Destroyer are at 10k).

[BIG E.]

Originally posted by ChuTheMan:

just forgettingthe 10% base physical resistance + the extra 10% he can get from one of his abilities. (so up to 20% in total)
it also got higher melee defense than the saurian

armor is not everything.

Ehm.

Magic attacks.

Ehm.

[ChuTheMan]

Originally posted by BIG E.:

Originally posted by ChuTheMan:

just forgettingthe 10% base physical resistance + the extra 10% he can get from one of his abilities. (so up to 20% in total)
it also got higher melee defense than the saurian

armor is not everything.

Ehm.

Magic attacks.

Ehm.

Like i said in my edit, I do think they're a bit on the lower side.
and armor is still not everything that determine how though they are.
Ofc against magical attacks its weak.

lucky there are ways to just negate magical attacks with a lammasu.
so unless you fight against a stack of magical ranged units, a single lammasu can cover that weakness.

[Cyiel]

Originally posted by BIG E.:

Originally posted by ChuTheMan:

just forgettingthe 10% base physical resistance + the extra 10% he can get from one of his abilities. (so up to 20% in total)
it also got higher melee defense than the saurian

armor is not everything.

Ehm.

Magic attacks.

Ehm.

It's a demon so of course it's weak to magic attacks which by the way means it won't rout.

[ChuTheMan]

Originally posted by Cyiel:

Originally posted by BIG E.:

Ehm.

Magic attacks.

Ehm.

It's a demon so of course it's weak to magic attacks which by the way means it won't rout.

also this ofc.
Demons are weak to magical attacks.

against any non-magical attacks, I think its gonna be a though thing to bring down.

[BIG E.]

Originally posted by Cyiel:

Originally posted by BIG E.:

Ehm.

Magic attacks.

Ehm.

It's a demon so of course it's weak to magic attacks which by the way means it won't rout.

Yes it wont rout. Its just gonna deal damage to itself and die. How is that a good thing?

I'd rather have it rout.

Litearlly the singular reason why i don't use things like, bloodthirsters, bloodcrushers, soul grinders etc. They just kill themselves instead of just running. And for me its more important for a unit to be easily replacable/sustainable than doing things for one battle then forever gone unless i spend 10 turns to global recruit.

Unless there is a way to heal them, they just look like fancy units i will probably never recruit. They can be good on paper but unless they are replacable/sustainable i really don't see myself paying for those units.

[Enelith]

Originally posted by BIG E.:

Unless there is a way to heal them

There's a way. Some of their heroes have a similar ability to the Necrotechs (TK) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr8oVx7TkwQ)

[KaBandha]

Valid responses, but putting physical resistance and all that aside, look at that thing. Its silly that CA goes all in to make something that looks so awesomely high tech and then giving it regular joe stats. Slap 150 armor on it along with all other buffs. It should be super strong in all aspects and not many things in wh fantasy should be able to kill it.

[ChuTheMan]

Originally posted by KaBandha:

Valid responses, but putting physical resistance and all that aside, look at that thing. Its silly that CA goes all in to make something that looks so awesomely high tech and then giving it regular joe stats. Slap 150 armor on it along with all other buffs. It should be super strong in all aspects and not many things in wh fantasy should be able to kill it.

its still a video game, so ofc they're not gonna make some unit that can't be killed, or where you need 2 full armies just to take one of them down (unless it's part of a quest battle maybe, not a regular unit)

I do think it need a small increase in armor, but not to the level where it's just silly.