Norsca improved in Immortal empires?

[✠Wagner✠]

Before i get serious with my new Norsca campaign i just want to check peoples opinions.
I read a thread when people were complaining that Norsca was one of the worst factions to play in WH2 Mortal empires campaign. Everyone apparently declared war on you and invaded you constantly. Norsca is supposed to be this super aggressive viking faction . I dont want to repeat the Troy: Saga frustration when the Trojans always invaded the greeks instead of the obvious opposite. It´s mindboggling that CA messed up something that simple. Also heard complaints about the Norsca monterhunt is very bugged. Is that correct? So have the Norsca campaign in WH3 Immortal empires been improved or is it still terrible?

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by Hans von Hammer:

So have the Norsca campaign in WH3 Immortal empires been improved or is it still terrible?

Those two aren't mutually exclusive.

Norsca has been improved in Warhammer 3:
- Getting some powerful new stuff for their devotion to the gods mechanics (A character on each path, either a hero or lord depending on path, with powerful buffs in its skill tree).
- Being able to conquer everywhere (with the full building tree).
- New commandments
- Able to use strategic resources like furs and iron and stuff, etc.

However many still seem to think Norsca are a terrible army and could use a proper
rework.

When it comes to being declared war on by everyone that is just common sense, you are a chaos faction in a central location with other factions surrounding you, everyone (even many other chaos factions) tend to dislike chaos factions innately.

When it comes to the monster hunts they do sometimes break (it seems like the script running them just stops running), it can often be solved by reloading saves from before it broke (assuming you notice it not doing something its supposed to). However this was also a issue in warhammer 2, so its not something new for warhammer 3.

[pauloandrade224]

and the ai for the norscans is so weak that i consider them still a placeholder faction . unless its wulfrik s faction or thoogh ( the smart troll i forgot how to type his name)

[✠Wagner✠]

Originally posted by pauloandrade224:

and the ai for the norscans is so weak that i consider them still a placeholder faction . unless its wulfrik s faction or thoogh ( the smart troll i forgot how to type his name)

Well yes, the real norscan factions for me are the playable ones

[✠Wagner✠]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

Originally posted by Hans von Hammer:

So have the Norsca campaign in WH3 Immortal empires been improved or is it still terrible?

Those two aren't mutually exclusive.

Norsca has been improved in Warhammer 3:
- Getting some powerful new stuff for their devotion to the gods mechanics (A character on each path, either a hero or lord depending on path, with powerful buffs in its skill tree).
- Being able to conquer everywhere (with the full building tree).
- New commandments
- Able to use strategic resources like furs and iron and stuff, etc.

However many still seem to think Norsca are a terrible army and could use a proper
rework.

When it comes to being declared war on by everyone that is just common sense, you are a chaos faction in a central location with other factions surrounding you, everyone (even many other chaos factions) tend to dislike chaos factions innately.

When it comes to the monster hunts they do sometimes break (it seems like the script running them just stops running), it can often be solved by reloading saves from before it broke (assuming you notice it not doing something its supposed to). However this was also a issue in warhammer 2, so its not something new for warhammer 3.

Oh, i dont dont mind fighting my neighbours and other norscan factions. I expect that as a norscan and i love to confederate them as a warlord . But if the Order faction constantly invade my lands it kinda ruins the campaign. Chaos factions are the ones who should do the invading especially in the end times. This was a problem Norscan faction had in in WH2 and it seems to be fixed in WH3. The game should be balanced in a way that makes the chaos factions more aggressive and expansionistic

[Basarab Laiota]

supply line penalties are vastly reduced from warhammer 2. norsca plays fine now

[milehigh026]

I am actually doing a norsca campaign right now. There have been some small improvements since TW2 but really it's not a whole lot better. I use a handful of mods to change things around but the faction really just needs a huge overhaul. There's a reason why norsca has the lowest completion rating on steam....no one wants to play them let alone finish the campaign.