Mod to nerf skaven HARD?

[Operator]

anyone know of a good skaven nerf mod? they are just straight BS.

[Operator]

Originally posted by SomeGuy1:

Originally posted by Operator:

Actually super defended, surrounded by my units, they pop up instantly kill the crew while my units are trying to save them.

just out of curiosity, what units are you using to do the saving? clanrats damage is awful, as long as a basic melee unit is nearby they should rescue the arty just fine.

I had my mortars in a square with my spears around it, the teleportation rats appeared inside the square so i used the rear line to attack them with i think high elf spears and my hero ran in, but the clan rats just focused my artillery and wiped them out before they were finally killed

[Big Moustache]

You can use magic on the menace from below. Debuff its leadership with a cheap spell and it routs. Do not make defensive squares. Skaven break easy, but they also keep rallying back. Push them towards the edge of battlemap

[pascal.difolco]

Originally posted by Operator:

Originally posted by DarkFenix:

It's unlikely you'll find one, because Skaven are one of the weakest AI factions you can possibly encounter. That's not exaggeration, hyperbole, or trolling on my part, the Skaven AI is actually trash beyond belief.

Not even close. instant teleport behind your units from any range. instantly destroys any back line units.
huge nukes.
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ earth quakes
everything about them is broken. the wind mortars? trash.

nah going to keep looking for a mod, you are welcome to play with them as they are.

Learn to deal with it, have units guarding your backline vs rat summons, keep encamp stance when near Skaven armies, dodge the nukes, get rid of the mortars before they can decimate your infantry (with heroes, large monsters, arty, flyers..) etc etc
Or just play Skaven, they're super fun !

[Adept]

Download the console commands mod i believe its called pj's mod. You can just abandon all of their settlements and delete them from your campaign.

[Adept]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2791241084
Here is a link to the mod. You can wipe out the skaven with it.

[pascal.difolco]

Originally posted by Adept:

Download the console commands mod i believe its called pj's mod. You can just abandon all of their settlements and delete them from your campaign.

And then do that for all other factions, instant win !

[SomeGuy1]

Originally posted by Operator:

Originally posted by SomeGuy1:

just out of curiosity, what units are you using to do the saving? clanrats damage is awful, as long as a basic melee unit is nearby they should rescue the arty just fine.

I had my mortars in a square with my spears around it, the teleportation rats appeared inside the square so i used the rear line to attack them with i think high elf spears and my hero ran in, but the clan rats just focused my artillery and wiped them out before they were finally killed

so, if you had both mortars and HE spearmen... did one of those come from allied recruitment? Do you mean eagle claw bolt throwers?

HE spears are, admittedly, not ideal for this job but they should still have done well enough.
Did your spears end up sandwiching the clanrats between the arty team and themselves? That doesn't really help drive them off, it just pushes the clanrats into the artillery crew. You want to have the arty crew run through the spearmen so they can prevent the clanrats from pursuing.

Though Rangers or Ellyrian Reavers (or Silver Helms) would have done a better job killing, they don't really need to. They just need to keep the clanrats off the artillery team until the summon times out.




... also, don't do boxes. Those are how you get destroyed by area spells. You can have a loose melee line and a loose archer line behind it, but not tight boxes.

[pascal.difolco]

Originally posted by SomeGuy1:

Originally posted by Operator:

I had my mortars in a square with my spears around it, the teleportation rats appeared inside the square so i used the rear line to attack them with i think high elf spears and my hero ran in, but the clan rats just focused my artillery and wiped them out before they were finally killed

so, if you had both mortars and HE spearmen... did one of those come from allied recruitment? Do you mean eagle claw bolt throwers?

HE spears are, admittedly, not ideal for this job but they should still have done well enough.
Did your spears end up sandwiching the clanrats between the arty team and themselves? That doesn't really help drive them off, it just pushes the clanrats into the artillery crew. You want to have the arty crew run through the spearmen so they can prevent the clanrats from pursuing.

Though Rangers or Ellyrian Reavers (or Silver Helms) would have done a better job killing, they don't really need to. They just need to keep the clanrats off the artillery team until the summon times out.




... also, don't do boxes. Those are how you get destroyed by area spells. You can have a loose melee line and a loose archer line behind it, but not tight boxes.

When facing skaven have some fast anti inf "guard" unit to deal with Menaces, "uncrew" the arty when the rats are summoned, send the guards, fight will last 20 seconds max, then recrew the arty

[Justaprank]

OP, you really need to forget about modding the game and learn to account for faction abilities. If you are feeling pressed by skaven, you aren't going to be able to deal with Tzeentch teleporting/magic, beastmen charges, woodelf skirmishers, chaos dwarf artillery, warriors of chaos insta-armies, or any of the other strong faction particularities. Either go to a historical total war, or learn to build and deploy armies with the enemy in mind.

[Btoad]

Dear OP welcome to Total War : Warhammer, expect the unexpected!

[FizzMan]

Lolz doesn't have any clue what he's doing and immediately blames the game design XD.

Like seriously stop whining, do you think people appreciate having to listen to you?

[Metal]

Op. Your either new player or just donno how to play the game. Either one of these two.

[The Bunny In the Bush]

With the exception of ikit, most scaven encounters can be solved by setting up a defensive line in a corner with arrows behind it, and letting them flee too the nearby border.... i don't know why you've have so much trouble with them outside of ambushes.

[Sauske]

Originally posted by The Bunny In the Bush:

With the exception of ikit, most scaven encounters can be solved by setting up a defensive line in a corner with arrows behind it, and letting them flee too the nearby border.... i don't know why you've have so much trouble with them outside of ambushes.

A lot of the difficulty in the game can be solved with egregious cheese. Doesn't make corner camping not gay af.

[pauloandrade224]

Originally posted by Sauske:

Originally posted by The Bunny In the Bush:

With the exception of ikit, most scaven encounters can be solved by setting up a defensive line in a corner with arrows behind it, and letting them flee too the nearby border.... i don't know why you've have so much trouble with them outside of ambushes.

A lot of the difficulty in the game can be solved with egregious cheese. Doesn't make corner camping not gay af.

being "gay" is fine its a single player game. its not like its a multiplayer thing ...

like i use mods that affect game balance is that also "gay" as u put it?