Are warhammer 1 and 2 worth it?

[La 92i Cheval]

I've been told that if you take all three sets, all the contents of 1 and 2 will be in 3, but is it worth making them part of the basic set, or just the 3 with the contents of both?

[Boss]

You can buy DLC from previous games solely and use it in WH3. You don't need the base games of 1 nor 2.

I personally think Karl's rework is fairly nice. Balth is an amazing wizard with very fun mechanics. So if you like Empire, it's worth it. Or you could just get Elspeth or Grim and the Grave for Volkmar, though I think Volky boy is the least interesting.

Warhammer 1's Vampire Counts have fallen behind, but Mannfred is super stronk and Kemler is fairly great. Vlad the Daddy is free, so you should get him if you grab Grim and the Grave instead (Ghorst and Volkmar DLC).

The Dwarves I don't think are necessary, especially with Malakai's release. If you grab Malakai or Clan Angrund, you'll have access to the White Dwarf as well. And who cares about regiments?

Orcs are in a similar situation. Grimgor and Azak are meh. The great green prophet is free, so if you grab the Skarznik DLC or Da Paunch, you'll get him.

Skaven is in a similar vein. The DLC Skaven are hands down superior than base game Skaven from WH 2. It's only the Dark Elves and High Elves that I find to be good/interesting in their base game versions, with the DLC ones doing little for me. I can't speak on Lizardpeople.

To be more concise:
Get WH1 if you like Empire or Vampire Counts.

Get WH2 if you like Elves or Dark Elves. (Can't speak on Lizardmen).

Get the DLC versions of the races you'd want to play otherwise.

[Alar]

If anything else they run _VASTLY_ better performance-wise, both of them. Much quicker turns, much quicker loading times. Maps differ as well which has a big influence on campaigns, and mechanics differ, although generally they get better and more fleshed out towards game 3, but still.

[raynay]

Next week is skullfest where most likely they will be on heavy discount, worth if u like new factions to play in IE WH3....but i would not really play them as a standalone game, use them as a faction DLC, specially wh1 graphics and balance is pretty dated.
Edit, ah i just saw u dont seem to have any....as crusher said with wh3 alone u are done for some time if thats your kind of game and since they are often (4x year at least) on sale get the rest as it suits ya, no need to go all in and be stunned by nearly 100 lords to choose from and get into their mechanics

[CrUsHeR]

Probably best if you play WH3 first, perhaps some of the DLC, see if you like that.
WH3 is just objectively better and bigger than WH1+2. It has the most features, the most content, the best campaign with Immortal Empires.


Thing is - if you buy WH1 for the Empire, you only get access to Reikland and all the core empire units.

However if you buy only the DLCs with new Empire lords instead, you also get all the core units in addition to the respective DLC units.

So if you are never going to play the actual WH1/2 game, the ratio of price vs. content is not good for them. Perhaps CA should give them for free along with WH3.


Otherwise, just buy them when you are convinced of WH3. Either to unlock the respective main faction lords, or just as token of appreciation to the developers.



Some of the main faction lords are also pretty effective, like Tyrion or the new overhauled Karl Franz. The game isn't really complete without them.
But why on earth would anyone pay money to get access to Queek, Skrolk or Tretch, if they can have Ikit Claw, Throt or Snikch from DLCs instead.

[Boss]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Some of the main faction lords are also pretty effective, like Tyrion or the new overhauled Karl Franz. The game isn't really complete without them.

My man casually ignoring Balthasar Gelt.

Probably a Skaven spy from Estalia.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Some of the main faction lords are also pretty effective, like Tyrion or the new overhauled Karl Franz. The game isn't really complete without them.
But why on earth would anyone pay money to get access to Queek, Skrolk or Tretch, if they can have Ikit Claw, Throt or Snikch from DLCs instead.

Simple; different locations with a different campaign experience or a challenge.

[Boss]

Originally posted by Dregora:

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Some of the main faction lords are also pretty effective, like Tyrion or the new overhauled Karl Franz. The game isn't really complete without them.
But why on earth would anyone pay money to get access to Queek, Skrolk or Tretch, if they can have Ikit Claw, Throt or Snikch from DLCs instead.

Simple; different locations with a different campaign experience or a challenge.

Change Starting Settlement mod have you covered. If you want to play boring Skaven, get the base Skaven. They're however uninteresting and dull compared to the three other clans. And until the Plague Skaven lord gets some special love, it'll remain unrecommended.

[Nixxo]

Yes

[Funky Monk]

Each base game has 4 new races with 2 LL's each. You also get access to the FLCs of those races as well (Or you can buy DLCs and unlock the FLCs)

So basically you can choose what content you want to buy for Warhammer 3.

[lumina]

I never cared for 1 very much. It can be worth a play through to see how it started if you get it for real cheap.

I would get 2 and DLC of factions you like. Then play them in 2. They play a lot different in 2 and give some better game play there. I also like the Vortex campaigns in 2. It's a very highly rated game for a reason.

[OldStygian]

Yes, definitely. Just wait on a sale.

[SBA77]

Originally posted by Alex:

I've been told that if you take all three sets, all the contents of 1 and 2 will be in 3, but is it worth making them part of the basic set, or just the 3 with the contents of both?

Really depends on what you want them for. If you intend to play them, yeah sure go for it.

If you want them for content in TWW3, all you'll be missing out on is 8 of the 90+ playable characters. You can get all the races by simply buying all the DLCs. And if we are being honest the characters (or Legendary Lords) they do have don't really have any special mechanic and are pretty vanilla (except for Karl Franz and Belthezar Gelt, who just got a unique mechanic in the latest patch, who both come from Total War: Warhammer 1), though there is value in that too.

[mommy misato]

buy dlc of the first two game only buy base game when they are on sale because with dlc pack you basically can play and test the faction out and dlc pack usually have more fun mechanics than the base factions

[Yannir]

Game 2 is arguably a vastly better game than game 3, it just doesn't have some things that were "improved" for game 3, or the game 3 factions.

[SBA77]

Originally posted by Yannir:

Game 2 is arguably a vastly better game than game 3, it just doesn't have some things that were "improved" for game 3, or the game 3 factions.

You know OP, many guys like this say that but rarely tell you how it's "vastly better". Just some food for thought.