Did other factions cannons get grape shot aswell?

[Fistimus Maximus]

If not is there a reason they didnt? example vampire coast are basically using empire tech so why didnt they?

[Immortalis]

To the best of my knowledge, grape shots are exclusive to Malakai campaign. Even the other dwarf factions don't get it, let alone the Empire or other blackpowder based artillery.

The reason is... because it is what it is?!?

Honestly, warhammer lore has always been extremely confusing, with different editions openly contradicting each other on such small details (for example, 2nd edition Old World Armoury indicates that cannons were introduced to mankind by the dwarfs in the 21st century IC - 5 edition Warhammer armies states that Marco Colombo had his ships outfitted with cannons in 1492 IC).

Outside of lore, game balancing is obviously an aspect so Malakai gets his gimmick just like any other faction (only Franz gets access to Elector Counts, only Elspeth gets access to Amethyst armory etc etc)

[Havean]

Originally posted by Immortalis:

To the best of my knowledge, grape shots are exclusive to Malakai campaign. Even the other dwarf factions don't get it, let alone the Empire or other blackpowder based artillery.

Nuln can get it from the gunnery school unlocks.

[Prisoner 76561197992841073]

Originally posted by Immortalis:

To the best of my knowledge, grape shots are exclusive to Malakai campaign. Even the other dwarf factions don't get it, let alone the Empire or other blackpowder based artillery.

The reason is... because it is what it is?!?

Honestly, warhammer lore has always been extremely confusing, with different editions openly contradicting each other on such small details (for example, 2nd edition Old World Armoury indicates that cannons were introduced to mankind by the dwarfs in the 21st century IC - 5 edition Warhammer armies states that Marco Colombo had his ships outfitted with cannons in 1492 IC).

Outside of lore, game balancing is obviously an aspect so Malakai gets his gimmick just like any other faction (only Franz gets access to Elector Counts, only Elspeth gets access to Amethyst armory etc etc)

you should give the nuln campaign a go first

[Immortalis]

Originally posted by Havean:

Originally posted by Immortalis:

To the best of my knowledge, grape shots are exclusive to Malakai campaign. Even the other dwarf factions don't get it, let alone the Empire or other blackpowder based artillery.

Nuln can get it from the gunnery school unlocks.

If that's the case I stand correct. Have yet to try Elspeth.
Am I correct to assume that Franz, Gelt and Markus still don't get access to grapeshots?

[CrUsHeR]

Gelt has a personal skill for something like +20% explosion radius and +10% dmg for Helstorms (faction-wide). And he has his wizards with elemental mastery.

So he kinda doesn't need grapeshot to be OP.

[Mollerz]

I'd love to see the vampire coast get grapeshot.