Dwarfs.. Too easy ?

[Reaver79]

Am i the only one finding them way to f***ing boring after they got showered with gifts making them about as fun to play with as a hemoroid ?...
All challenge is just gone...

[badger vortex]

i have no issue with having a number of beginner friendly factions, and yeah after the grudges update they are especially easy. even if you're not auto resolving they still have a very strong roster from start to finish and a strong economy

[Reaver79]

I get newbi factions, but maybe not make all of the dwarf race a newbi faction at once ? It's kinda like the beastmen rework, they where pretty bad, then got to a place where you dont even bother worrying about losses in a fight..
I guess i just dislike that the entire faction is easy mode..

[Captain T1]

Have you tried playing as Belegar Ironhammer?

[Reaver79]

Yes tho not after the update, do you think he is challenging ?..
The same mechanics apply, i can't imagine him being hard pressed.

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by Reaver79:

Yes tho not after the update, do you think he is challenging ?..
The same mechanics apply, i can't imagine him being hard pressed.

Belegar should be still one of the top 10 difficulty lords. Not much changed for him.

No lord is difficult after a successful early game (t1-30~50).

[Raider Deci]

I used to like Dwarfs but havent touched them since the dlc. From what I have seen it just feels wrong. They are certainly not struggling in any way

[Pönnukaka]

Originally posted by Raider Deci:

I used to like Dwarfs but havent touched them since the dlc. From what I have seen it just feels wrong. They are certainly not struggling in any way

You should try Malakai at least once. Super aggresive campaign. You get attacked by multiple factions no matter what.

[pascal.difolco]

Originally posted by Pönnukaka:

Originally posted by Raider Deci:

I used to like Dwarfs but havent touched them since the dlc. From what I have seen it just feels wrong. They are certainly not struggling in any way

You should try Malakai at least once. Super aggresive campaign. You get attacked by multiple factions no matter what.

And then you should try the full Gyro army, with Malakai and 2 Engineers, all with Prospector mails that give them stalk
Vs Norsca it's not even battles, you kill them all with no losses

[Raider Deci]

Originally posted by Pönnukaka:

Originally posted by Raider Deci:

I used to like Dwarfs but havent touched them since the dlc. From what I have seen it just feels wrong. They are certainly not struggling in any way

You should try Malakai at least once. Super aggresive campaign. You get attacked by multiple factions no matter what.

Aggressive is the word. It's mainly from where I have seen the mechanics from, a buddy that I play coop with have played with him. A decent start and then snowballing without problems. And thats kinda the thing, getting attacked & losing worthless settlements is good, that gets you grudges that gets you more money to invest, rinse & repeat. It also adds to easy confederations. Couple that with strong early units if you do the adventures.
If you play your cards right you have more money than you know what to do with already around turn 60 with several armies that is basically untouchable, ranged damage boost to extremes (his malakai had ranged damage to like 4-5k if I remember correcly, at turn 50, shotty thingy though, still).

[badger vortex]

op was complaining a faction it too easy, so you suggest playing their strongest faction leader?? yes, you have a number of enemies around you at the start, but they're not particularly strong ones. having a horde mechanic always gives you that extra edge too, not to mention the spirit of grugni summon

[Raider Deci]

Originally posted by Reaver79:

All challenge is just gone...

Sidenote;

Have you tried using the dwarf-crisis with diplomatic possibility on? Im in agreement what you are saying, but there is always the possibility of full cheese-mode to make it even easier through the new confederations so you have several high-tier stacks completly for free^^ (have not tried it personally, just know the jist of it)

but it says more about how the crisis-system is so simple it can be broken in so many ways, from this to belegar's dilemma to greenskins leader-killing confederation & so on

[Stranger]

Originally posted by Reaver79:

Am i the only one finding them way to f***ing boring after they got showered with gifts making them about as fun to play with as a hemoroid ?...
All challenge is just gone...

If you're suggesting they're too easy, then make their economy even worse and decrease the income and growth rate.

[DecayWolf]

I guess I have played Dawi only once, just for a few turns. Don't remember if it was WH1 or WH2. Meaning I don't have much or if any experience with Dawi.

But... Aren't all factions very easy to play? Maybe you're just too good with Dawi. (IIRC you can go afk in the battlefield, which is... An... Unique feature, for sure.)

[carried by devs]

if u spam gyro you won around turn 10

[chickabumpbump]

Originally posted by pascal.difolco:

Originally posted by Pönnukaka:

You should try Malakai at least once. Super aggresive campaign. You get attacked by multiple factions no matter what.

And then you should try the full Gyro army, with Malakai and 2 Engineers, all with Prospector mails that give them stalk
Vs Norsca it's not even battles, you kill them all with no losses

Ew doomstacking