How is it even possible to play as Bretonnia

[goobacks]

I’m playing on legendary difficulty for both campaign and battle. I’ve already finished playing as greenskins, beastmen and dwarfs. Now I’m trying Bretonnia and playing as the girl with short black hair.

And holycrap it’s hard. At around turn 10 the AI always comes to me with two full stacks and I get wrecked. I can’t build my army because of how poor I am. I’m guessing I’m doing something wrong. Anyone can give me pointers on how to survive the early game? I’m loving the faction so far because of how they remind me of playing Medieval total war 2 back in the day. Nothing is more Total War than a well time calvary charge to the rear that sends bodies flying. It’s just that I can’t even survive 20 turns.

[DaBo81]

Why are you playing it on Leg Leg and complaining it's hard? Yes, on that setting, it is

[Abisha]

within a ML3 lab, with a suit on. and absolute washing your hands after 1 hour gameplay.
O yea also have a keyboard and mouse cover. can't be to careful.

[goobacks]

Originally posted by DaBo81:

Why are you playing it on Leg Leg and complaining it's hard? Yes, on that setting, it is

I’m not complaining, I’m just stating that it’s too hard for me and would like tips from people who know what to do.

[Hieronymous]

Brettonia is an aesthetic abomination, so as Abisha said, take proper physical, mental, and spiritual precautions when exposed.

After that, it's the usual advice. Use / abuse ambush stance to either hide from the AI or actually ambush them. Get a second army of cheap peasants out asap. Archers punch above their weight for Brettonia as well.

[Ashley]

You don't. They're the joke faction.

[cernodan]

I wish I could help, my horse loving friend, but I personally would rather rot alive then play with Br*tonnia.

[goobacks]

Originally posted by Hieronymous:

Brettonia is an aesthetic abomination, so as Abisha said, take proper physical, mental, and spiritual precautions when exposed.

After that, it's the usual advice. Use / abuse ambush stance to either hide from the AI or actually ambush them. Get a second army of cheap peasants out asap. Archers punch above their weight for Brettonia as well.

Really? Do people really hate how they look? I actually quite like them and I’m legit excited for the Old World models coming out.
Anyways, back on topic. Ambushes and cheap low tier units is what I did playing beastmen and greenskins and it worked great (a little TOO great for beastmen) but how do I do it playing Bretonnia? Having too many peasants destroys your income and I didn’t check the stats but when playing them they hold up even worse than goblins

[Fastwinstondoom]

Bretonnia is great, don't listen to these chaos-worshippers! Repanse is probably the hardest of the Bret factions, but the regular early game tactic of archer armies + moving around with extra melee lords next to your main army to use as blockers in battle should work. Once you get grail units you can steamroll the map super easy.

[Ashley]

No ambushes. It lowers your chivalry last I checked. They're the horses, horses and more horses. Very one dimensional probably more than any other faction. If you don't like/suck at horse charges there's legit nothing else to them.

People hate their playstyle and their lore especially.

[goobacks]

Originally posted by Fastwinstondoom:

Bretonnia is great, don't listen to these chaos-worshippers! Repanse is probably the hardest of the Bret factions, but the regular early game tactic of archer armies + moving around with extra melee lords next to your main army to use as blockers in battle should work. Once you get grail units you can steamroll the map super easy.

Got it I’ll be trying that next run

[Gizzlow]

In my opinion Bretonnia is the easy faction of the game, with Repanse what I do is get full cavalry, only a few peasants, focus on Arkhan the black while I defend myself from Aranessa, by turn 50 I no longer have enemies in the surroundings and I It's time to migrate to other parts of the map.

If you go full cavalry at the beginning you can almost self-resolve all the battles

[(Steelclaw)]

General Repanse advice (I haven't played her on Legend but I've played both as and with her several times in VH/VH co-op):

Peasants are your chaff, but it's not worth wrecking your economy to have more of them.

Allied recruitment is a great source of extra chaff if you can get a defensive alliance with anyone. Dwarves will especially improve your life, since their warriors are leagues better than peasants at being an anvil to your hammer. Lizardmen are also very good for this.

Get some extra low-tier knights from the Copher docks. You're a cavalry faction, and your cavalry are what'll do the real work (along with your lord/hero).

Regardless of faction, extra lords following around your army to help out in battle are very powerful. A Lore of Life lord will solve a lot of your problems - she can extend the lifespan of your knights, and provide a lot of spell damage on melee infantry blobs which would otherwise be among the more HP-expensive targets to charge with knights. Consider Lore of Heavens instead if you're dealing with a lot of enemy cavalry or heavy armor - the lightning bolt is more effective in those situations.

(As noted above after I started writing this, extra melee lords following your army don't go amiss either - Bret lords are good.)

As a bonus, if you have a solo lord following your army around, you can send the main army in ambush to bait enemies to prey on the solo lord. They usually fall for it.

Make sure you know what your cavalry can and can't deal with. Focus enemy anti-large with your peasant archers, to ensure it's at least softened up if your knights do have to face it. You also don't really want to fight enemy big stuff with knights that aren't anti-large, if you can avoid it.

(In response to accusations of Bretonnia not being an ambush faction: every faction is an ambush faction. The chivalry loss from ambush is negligible.)

[goobacks]

Originally posted by Ashley:

No ambushes. It lowers your chivalry last I checked. They're the horses, horses and more horses. Very one dimensional probably more than any other faction. If you don't like/suck at horse charges there's legit nothing else to them.

People hate their playstyle and their lore especially.

I love a good cavalry charge but they’re not great against the ogres that are my neighbors. They do send the tomb kings infantry flying though and it’s a great feeling. Also I dont know too much about their lore but it felt very Arthurian and I loved those stories as a kid

[Hieronymous]

You seem to be enjoying Bretonnia so I will at this time not go on a rant about them, and only do due diligence in warning you that turning your heart towards something like Bretonnia imperils your in-real-life mortal soul.

Agree with the above posters who note that finding a good anvil for the okay-enough hammer that is a horse with a Bretonnian on it is a challenge. The grail relic might help the peasants hold their ground a few extra seconds before their inevitable flight.

Also, you are well advised to risk the favor of the warp-fiend who has dominated the simple nervous tissue of the average Bretonnian. Ambushing does help, and the The Lady will give more "chivalry" for every Bretonnian soul you destroy in service of the wood elves.

[Alt]

Better to ask stuff like that on r/TotalWar. There you more likely to meet people who play on Legendary. Steam forums toxic a lot of the time and decent players rarely visit them.