Warhammer 2 or 3 for playing Vampire Counts?

[MjauMix]

It's been a while since I played - is the latest game the most solid choice for playing bloodsucking tanking edgelords from Sylvania?

[Huaquero]

3 is better,diplomacy fixed and more factions

[art_loots]

Sylvania start warhammer 2 is actually beter.
warhammer 3 has different starting positions with manlet and ghorst

[Zeek]

3 is superior to 2 in every way at this point (unless you really want to play Vortex).

[ArchAnge1LT]

Originally posted by Zeek:

3 is superior to 2 in every way at this point (unless you really want to play Vortex).

Why tho?

[Zeek]

Originally posted by ArchAnge1LT:

Why tho?

Because it takes everything that is great about game 2 and (at a high level)
* Expands the map
* Gives more factions to play as and against
* Gives a bunch of QoL stuff

[art_loots]

warhammer 2 is beter in:
preformance
- actually being able to use gunner units
- no minor settlement battles
- sieges are equeally bad but at least done faster
- DE slave system is actually good
- Less hop to another settlement every turn
- AI actually still terreble yet not as bad as the "fix" CA did with the AI

[franz]

They are better in 2 (due to the simple fact you could have unlimited vampires via a lord skill) , but still pretty bad , but fun at times . That beeing said Id still play them in 3 :P

[Alex]

3, hands down. More options. Manny actually gets to do something instead of being cucked by Vlad.

[Darklordnj]

Originally posted by Alex:

3, hands down. More options. Manny actually gets to do something instead of being cucked by Vlad.

Manny always deserves to get his rear beat by Vlad the Chad. Now confederation on the other hand... Easier in some ways, harder in others in 3.

[SBA77]

Originally posted by art_loots:

warhammer 3 has different starting positions with manlet and ghorst

Knowing how fans feel about Vampire Counts character, I'm sure most people would approve of that.

Also TWW3 has a Ghorst that ate his can of spinach.

[eRe4s3r]

WH2 is superior for vampires, better spell experience, better roster experience, better faction experience (Vlad/Isaballa), better traits and you don't have to ever see a WH3 minor settlement battle. All wins for WH2 ;)

[Jukelo]

As with everything, you will have a better experience in game 3 thanks to all the improvements to the game.

Better magic, better sieges, better UI on both campaign and battle map, more QoL. There have been some improvements to the VC factions as well.

Originally posted by Urist Microcline:

"Oh but you can play as Isabella still!" I know someone wants to say to which I say yea you can but guess what happens if you play as Isabella? VLAD VON CARSTEIN GETS DEMOTED TO LEGENDARY HERO! It's so freaking dumb.

Are you sure that's a WH3 thing? Vlad's was the last campaign I played in WH2 and Isabella was already a LH (I think?). I don't see the issue with that either.

[Aleera]

3, simply because Vlad and Isabella are now together as Legendary lord and hero. So you can actually have them together in 1 army, not needing to reinforce.

[MjauMix]

Originally posted by Rianne:

3, simply because Vlad and Isabella are now together as Legendary lord and hero. So you can actually have them together in 1 army, not needing to reinforce.

so you are saying they have vampire sex in their barracks all day long?

[SBA77]

Originally posted by eRe4s3r:

WH2 is superior for vampires, better spell experience, better roster experience, better faction experience (Vlad/Isaballa), better traits

But the roster is exactly the same, Vampire Counts haven't changed since TWW2. And Vlad and Isabella have a LL-LH relationship (When you choose one of them as the LL, the other becomes a LH) so you can keep them together in more easily. How is that a "better faction experience" for them. Plus now that Mannfred was moved to the ass end of nowhere, you have a better chance of actually seeing old Vlad, where before Mannfred would just eat him every time.