why do historical total war fans HATE total war warhammer?

[lystrosaurus with trauma]

like i find some threads here or online of people HATING on the games for being fantasy??? like i dont understand if you hate these games you can just play the historical ones or am i missing something?
EDIT: i am not making general claims about EVERY historical fan just the ones i have seen complaining about the game

[Chibbity]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από SpiffyGonzales:

Notice how each and every time you have to resort to personal attacks without actually arguing the point and constantly go back to the same old "dont like, dont buy" argument.

If you think that was a personal attack, you haven't been on the internet very long lol.

I did address the point, you assumed that consumers are being hurt, I told you I haven't been hurt, I'm a consumer; your assumption is false.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από SpiffyGonzales:

Also what do you mean "grow up"? This entire discussion thread is asking guys like me why we don't like this total war, literally the exact thing i've been explaining. Re-read the title my man.

I can't change the fact that OP invited you to come here and whine, that was a poor decision in his part; but we're stuck with it.

[Donut Steel]

CA's self-appointed brand ambassadors still allowed to act with impunity I see, and still can't address any arguments or even accurately recite what people they disagree with actually say.

[SpiffyGonzales]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Donut Steel:

CA's self-appointed brand ambassadors still allowed to act with impunity I see, and still can't address any arguments or even accurately recite what people they disagree with actually say.

Ya know what.. I think you're right. It's been frustrating arguing with that guy. I mean he doesn't even bother trying to argue the merits of the game so much as just saying the others were just as bad somehow with zero points made other than asserting that people should buy what they want (absolutely ingenious insight right?) as if somehow that makes all good or bad decisions by a company or a consumer base totally justified.

thank you random internet guy. If I hadn't read your comment i'd have probably gone on trying to convince him for weeks lol. Have a deep thoughts award. :)

[Chibbity]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από SpiffyGonzales:

I mean he doesn't even bother trying to argue the merits of the game

You already said you don't like it, I'm certainly not going to be able to convince you to like it, nor do I care to; so why would I waste both our time doing that?

[Donut Steel]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Chibbity:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από SpiffyGonzales:

I mean he doesn't even bother trying to argue the merits of the game

You already said you don't like it, I'm certainly not going to be able to convince you to like it, nor do I care to; so why would I waste both our time doing that?

Sir, the thread topic is the OP interrogating why 'historical fans' hate Total War Warhammer. It's not the first one to do so, nor the first time where people have not paid the slightest attention to the answers and insisted others have opinions they actually don't.

Anyone who came in ready to attack is by definition a de-railing troll, but that is how CA has engaged their community management for a long time, with only a brief pause when Simone was the community lead.

For someone who doesn't care, your participation in this thread at all is confusing to me.

[lystrosaurus with trauma]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Donut Steel:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Chibbity:

You already said you don't like it, I'm certainly not going to be able to convince you to like it, nor do I care to; so why would I waste both our time doing that?

Sir, the thread topic is the OP interrogating why 'historical fans' hate Total War Warhammer. It's not the first one to do so, nor the first time where people have not paid the slightest attention to the answers and insisted others have opinions they actually don't.

Anyone who came in ready to attack is by definition a de-railing troll, but that is how CA has engaged their community management for a long time, with only a brief pause when Simone was the community lead.

For someone who doesn't care, your participation in this thread at all is confusing to me.

honestly i forgot this thread existed lol

[Chibbity]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Donut Steel:

Sir, the thread topic is the OP interrogating why 'historical fans' hate Total War Warhammer.

I can't go back in time and convince OP not to make a poor decision lol.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Donut Steel:

For someone who doesn't care, your participation in this thread at all is confusing to me.

I said I'm not going to waste time trying to convince him to change his opinion about the game, that's not the same as saying I don't care to discuss the topic at hand. Hopefully that clears up your confusion.

[lystrosaurus with trauma]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Chibbity:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Donut Steel:

Sir, the thread topic is the OP interrogating why 'historical fans' hate Total War Warhammer.

I can't go back in time and convince OP not to make a poor decision lol.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Donut Steel:

For someone who doesn't care, your participation in this thread at all is confusing to me.

I said I'm not going to waste time trying to convince him to change his opinion about the game, that's not the same as saying I don't care to discuss the topic at hand. Hopefully that clears up your confusion.

what opinion do you think i have about the game? just wondering

[Jabroni]

Medieval 2 and Warhammer II are my favorites so idgaf

[SBA77]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Donut Steel:

CA's self-appointed brand ambassadors still allowed to act with impunity I see, and still can't address any arguments or even accurately recite what people they disagree with actually say.

But what about all the other company's secret brand ambassadors who are swarming this thread?

[Aleera]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από SpiffyGonzales:

There's no equal equivalent to it. There's no "yea bro its equally strategic, just different yo". It is not as strategic PERIOD. You can enjoy it, heck I ENJOY IT. But it is an absolute LIE that it is as strategic.

Yeah, no, I already build my armies in a balanced fashion so they can handle any threat with a mixture of unit's.

Naval battles would not make it different in the slightest.

You want to make the claim it's more strategic, it is not.

I do not make the claim the Warhammer Saga is strategic on the exact same level, because it's not a carbon copy, is it on equal, but it has a similar level of strategy acquired, only with a focus on other parts.

For example, winds of magic effect per province, do the historical titles have this? Do you have to deal with under cities and similar effects?
How about anticipating teleport stance armies?

The list goes on with the different kinds of things you can and should take into account for your strategy.

We lost some parts, we gained some parts. In the end is roughly equal.

[Chibbity]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από the wrinkly darth:

what opinion do you think i have about the game? just wondering

The second part wasn't about you, sorry.

[Donut Steel]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από SBA77:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Donut Steel:

CA's self-appointed brand ambassadors still allowed to act with impunity I see, and still can't address any arguments or even accurately recite what people they disagree with actually say.

But what about all the other company's secret brand ambassadors who are swarming this thread?

How can someone be a secret brand ambassador?

"Well why yes, I also hate that Homeworld 3 has no physics, no ballistics, arcade-style abilities that there's never any reason not to click on when the cooldown is over because they're dumb stat-modifiers instead of real game mechanics, and the poignant understated tone has been replaced with Mexican Soap Opera melodrama... but it is still better than the old Homeworld because Deserts of Karak's success indicated this is what the majority wanted, and I just hate that, you know."

You can replace the Homeworld franchise in this hypothetical with Total War. You can replace the points about aesthetics and gameplay systems to talk about all kinds of games where now ancient hardware was able to run programs more complex than hidden spreadsheets. You can even replace a playerbase with brand ambassadors needing to argue the sunk cost fallacy because they can't pretend the changes didn't happen.

You can't replace your dignity when you pretend to understand a viewpoint and then misrepresent it, visibly.

[SBA77]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από the wrinkly darth:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Donut Steel:

Sir, the thread topic is the OP interrogating why 'historical fans' hate Total War Warhammer. It's not the first one to do so, nor the first time where people have not paid the slightest attention to the answers and insisted others have opinions they actually don't.

Anyone who came in ready to attack is by definition a de-railing troll, but that is how CA has engaged their community management for a long time, with only a brief pause when Simone was the community lead.

For someone who doesn't care, your participation in this thread at all is confusing to me.

honestly i forgot this thread existed lol

Was the popcorn tasty, though?

[Aleera]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Donut Steel:

You can't replace your dignity when you pretend to understand a viewpoint and then misrepresent it, visibly.

Ironic.