End Game Crisis - Fun, But Also Not

[AChicken]

Four full stack, high tier, Undead (Sylvanian) armies appearing outside Drakenhoff after I worked very hard to remove the Undead corruption and eliminate the Undead (Sylvania) armies within The Empire is really upsetting. Had I known this was going to happen at least I could've moved my armies and camped outside Drakenhoff (the 10 turn timer didn't say the Undead would appear in friendly territory with multiple high tier doomstacks).

I'm pretty sure this would happen regardless of what the end game crisis was (e.g. if it was the Orks, then previously destroyed factions would reappear with multiple doomstacks in the middle of their conqueror's territory - not exactly a fun experience considering the effort one has to put into defeating certain factions).

I'm not saying I don't like the end game crisis, and I'm not saying I don't think doomstacks shouldn't appear outside Drakenhoff (for example). I'm saying some warning that let me know to defend, for example, Drakenhoff, would've been nice. Seriously, why even bother defeating Sylvania and purifying Eastern and Western Sylvania in such a scenario!? I could've been in a better position if I had a strategy focused more on Sylvanian containment than on its defeat and reintegration into The Empire!

[A.Pot]

Did you wipe out Vlad's faction before it kicked in? That is pretty important.

[AChicken]

100% I did. Vlad and his faction (Sylvania) were defeated. I made sure of that. That's why I didn't expect Vlad, Isabella, and two other Sylvanian legendary lrods of level 30ish or so to appear smack outside Drakenhoff.

[Commander]

All defeated factions and Lord respawn. Except the Orcs. If all orcs are dead. 4 armies spawn at Black Crag. I only saw Black pyramid event. And restarted my campaign. This playthrough, I'm putting only Orcs. So I wipe the ones near me. The end game scenarios are what motivates one to play and reset campaign to be honest. Like wiping Skave then all back to squar 1. It's poorly designed.

[A.Pot]

Originally posted by AChicken:

100% I did. Vlad and his faction (Sylvania) were defeated. I made sure of that. That's why I didn't expect Vlad, Isabella, and two other Sylvanian legendary lrods of level 30ish or so to appear smack outside Drakenhoff.

Huh? Maybe that is something CA added during the last patch. It was supposed to be that only The Sentinels of the the Black Pyramid that would be the only ones to do that.

[AChicken]

Originally posted by Fisher:

All defeated factions and Lord respawn. Except the Orcs. If all orcs are dead. 4 armies spawn at Black Crag. I only saw Black pyramid event. And restarted my campaign. This playthrough, I'm putting only Orcs. So I wipe the ones near me. The end game scenarios are what motivates one to play and reset campaign to be honest. Like wiping Skave then all back to squar 1. It's poorly designed.

It would be nice if either there was some advance warning that a previously defeated faction was going to respawn (in some owned faction) or if the other factions that are part of the end game crisis got extra armies while the defeated faction got no armies (and thus didn't respawn).

[AChicken]

Originally posted by A.Pot:

Originally posted by AChicken:

100% I did. Vlad and his faction (Sylvania) were defeated. I made sure of that. That's why I didn't expect Vlad, Isabella, and two other Sylvanian legendary lrods of level 30ish or so to appear smack outside Drakenhoff.

Huh? Maybe that is something CA added during the last patch. It was supposed to be that only The Sentinels of the the Black Pyramid that would be the only ones to do that.

I just looked it up. Apparently every faction is going to end up becoming the end game crisis at some point.

https://totalwarwarhammer.fandom.com/wiki/Endgame_scenario

Currently the Dwarfs, Greenskins, Tomb Kings, Wood Elves, Vampire Counts, and Skaven are potential end game crises possibilities.

[A.Pot]

Originally posted by AChicken:

Currently the Dwarfs, Greenskins, Tomb Kings, Wood Elves, Vampire Counts, and Skaven are potential end game crises possibilities.

No, I mean that the Sentinels were the only ones where even if you destroyed them, they will be back once the Crisis happens.

[Buge]

I made this mistake of leaving the end world event on for my wood elf Drycha playthrough.
Although it kind of sort of worked out with head cannon for me.
Drycha finally enacts the ritual on the Oak of the ages. Only for the vermintide to end the world in a sad irony or something..

My one piece of advice if you're going to play a wood elf campaign. Probably turn off the end game scenario. It just interrupts the wood elf campaign. You're not going to travel the world wiping out end game armies as wood elfs.
If you do its just going to be a hassle. Wood elves arent known for their cross country.

[Imposter]

Originally posted by AChicken:

100% I did. Vlad and his faction (Sylvania) were defeated. I made sure of that. That's why I didn't expect Vlad, Isabella, and two other Sylvanian legendary lrods of level 30ish or so to appear smack outside Drakenhoff.

I don't use it at all, it's bugged.

[Ashley]

Welcome to leaving end game events on

[AChicken]

So what I'm getting is that the end game events are executed in such a way that they're not especially enjoyable for most, so most people just turn them off. That's a real bummer, because I like the crisis events, I just don't like certain parts.

Guess I'll change my next playthrough somehow. Either turn off end game events and increase difficulty to Very Hard (instead of Hard), or just remember that even if I wiped a faction they'll still come back so plan accordingly.

What a shame...

Oh well. All the same, thanks guys.

[Mr.Hmm]

Originally posted by AChicken:

So what I'm getting is that the end game events are executed in such a way that they're not especially enjoyable for most, so most people just turn them off. That's a real bummer, because I like the crisis events, I just don't like certain parts.

Guess I'll change my next playthrough somehow. Either turn off end game events and increase difficulty to Very Hard (instead of Hard), or just remember that even if I wiped a faction they'll still come back so plan accordingly.

What a shame...

Oh well. All the same, thanks guys.

Eh i had fun going against the dwarves,green skins,tomb kings and skaven as endgame crisis.

It was hard when the crisis started but when i got my armies in position i ended them rather easily.

[Spookymancer]

Where is this idea coming from that wiping out a faction somehow prevents the associated event from happening? That was certainly never in any of the patch notes.
"Destroyed factions are respawned." is literally the quote I find when I go looking.

The issue with the Black Pyramid Sentinels was a scripting error that only happened if the vampire counts controlled the Pyramid when the event fired. Separate thing.

Vampire Counts crisis - they always spawn in the same five spots, one spawn location for each of the five major vampire factions, their start position capital. You really only get surprised once.

[chickabumpbump]

I watched a brief video on it and just laughed, it’s the physical representation of how lazy CA are and incapable of decent warhammer story content.

Spamming armies is just pathetic and lazy, they didn’t even test or care or both that your own race end game doesn’t include you

[drazan]

tldr: i want a challenge at late game, but it has to be an easy challenge.