CA really need to realize that hotfixes does not benefit the players; nay they actually make some player suffer, can't play the game anymore (particularly those who played using mods), and delete it from Steamlibrary or leaving bad rating.

[Reinholdt]

As title. Many modders has already given up with this game. Many players too, has left and leaving bad reviews on the game. CA really need to shut their ears from Tzeench whisper; as when providing a service business, if your action actually makes your client to leave, then why do you keep doing that.

[Elitewrecker PT]

For years people complained about only getting updates every 2 or 3 months.

[Reinholdt]

But has anyone leave and give bad ratings due to the game only getting update every 2 or 3 months tho?

[✳Sindri Myr✳]

Originally posted by Reinholdt:

But has anyone leave and give bad ratings due to the game only getting update every 2 or 3 months tho?

Oh yes, they did.

[zefyris]

Players that use mods need to realize that when the game warns you that the version is no longer the same/compatible for their save/ mods, they can force the loading and if the patch was just fixes, it will work like 99,5% of the time just fine.

But no, they'd rather complain about a genuinely good thing (regular patches) rather than learn to either just validate in game, or to not take mods that are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ that a meager fix break them completely.

Originally posted by Reinholdt:

But has anyone leave and give bad ratings due to the game only getting update every 2 or 3 months tho?

They did, and more than a little. Too few patches was a serious problem until they changed that after the SoC disaster.

[Reinholdt]

Maybe it will help you guys to understand the situation if you can kindly check the review section of the game, right now, and it will help if you can go Ctrl + F and search something like "hotfix", "crash", "update", etc. You will see what I meant. Then, after that I suggest you collect the frequency (n) of data/hit that you found compared to the complaint of the game having slow update.... Honestly as of today I didn't see anyone complaining about that stuff anymore

[Reinholdt]

@zefyris we can read. you don't need to write the warning again here. And I dont think regular patches are a good thing. During the classic era, game like this are published inside a disk, FINISHED during launch, and if there is any fix or patches, there will only be once or thrice or sometimes put inside an expansion. Also, I don't appreciate your tone, sir. I merely here to warn CA of the danger they have done to the community. I complain because I care. There are players that prefer vanilla, yes, but there are players that prefer custom too. I can simply just leave but I still has a heart to warn CA of the danger that they did, because the evidence is there. If you @zefyris are trying to make a show here, please kindly left

[✳Sindri Myr✳]

Originally posted by Reinholdt:

Maybe it will help you guys to understand the situation if you can kindly check the review section of the game, right now, and it will help if you can go Ctrl + F and search something like "hotfix", "crash", "update", etc. You will see what I meant. Then, after that I suggest you collect the frequency (n) of data/hit that you found compared to the complaint of the game having slow update.... Honestly as of today I didn't see anyone complaining about that stuff anymore

The key word is "anymore"

[Skurio]

My guess is its to keep the very vocal multiplayer alive. They suffer heavily when there is too long between updates. Its not really about bugfixes but about changing the meta by tweaking some stats. It becomes quite apparent when you look at the patch notes. The absolute majority is utterly pointless stuff.

The problem goes much deeper, they are treating the stable game branch as an open beta for every new patch. While at the same time removing stable rollbacks through sheer negligence. They removed the older rollbacks after Games Workshop got angry about unreleased assets that could be activated by moders. And by the way they did it, they are now just overwriting rollbacks.

[Reinholdt]

@Sindry Myr Oh for good's sake suit yourself. I was only trying to say that there are evidence of people leaving today because apparently solving another problem with another problem is actually a norm here. I'm not here to chat. Bye

[Conflagration]

Originally posted by Reinholdt:

As title. Many modders has already given up with this game. Many players too, has left and leaving bad reviews on the game. CA really need to shut their ears from Tzeench whisper; as when providing a service business, if your action actually makes your client to leave, then why do you keep doing that.

Absolute nonsense, and I say that as someone who's been modding this series for over six years. We wanted regular hotfixes for so long, and it's good we have them. Nobody's quit modding over them and anyone who says that they have is a liar.

[Skurio]

Originally posted by Conflagration:

We wanted regular hotfixes for so long

Who is we and why? Can you name one upside of the hotfixes this year that werent just fixes for the bugs they introduced in the last hotfix?

[Conflagration]

Originally posted by Skurio:

Originally posted by Conflagration:

We wanted regular hotfixes for so long

Who is we and why? Can you name one upside of the hotfixes this year that werent just fixes for the bugs they introduced in the last hotfix?

We being the community... It's something people have been asking CA for for literal years.

Getting fixes is always good, no matter when the bugs were introduced. It helps to avoid stuff happening like when Nakai had seven units he couldn't recruit, including his most critical unit, for five whole months when it was a 2 second change - people hated that.

[Reinholdt]

Originally posted by Conflagration:

Originally posted by Reinholdt:

As title. Many modders has already given up with this game. Many players too, has left and leaving bad reviews on the game. CA really need to shut their ears from Tzeench whisper; as when providing a service business, if your action actually makes your client to leave, then why do you keep doing that.

Absolute nonsense, and I say that as someone who's been modding this series for over six years. We wanted regular hotfixes for so long, and it's good we have them. Nobody's quit modding over them and anyone who says that they have is a liar.

Wow.

Alright the only reason I come back again here is because you call me nonsense and a liar. So, may I?

First of all, I would like to express my gratitude for you contribution to the modding society.
Next, perhaps I can help you to correct that and help you find the evidence sir? Maybe it will help if you can go to Community -> Workshop section -> choose the "most susbscribed" filter and "all time" and tell me what you see. Even in the first page, which means the most subscribed mods of all time, you can see that there are several mods that were last updated on Apr, Mar, Jan, or even 2024. Going into the second page, you can see that even there are mods that are last updated 2023, and even 2022. So are you still saying that nobody qut modding them and these hotfixes does not causes players to repeatedly ask them in the comment to update?
And lastly, wow. What a decent way to post a comment. Calling me a liar in uncalled for.

[Elitewrecker PT]

You realise that mods don't necessarily need updating every single time there's a patch right...
Some even at all.

If you really want to give proper examples, you could use OvN or the custom combat animations. OvN isn't fixing their mods until 6.2 and custom animations aren't resuming until the game has gotten the last update.

[Skurio]

Originally posted by Conflagration:

Originally posted by Skurio:

Who is we and why? Can you name one upside of the hotfixes this year that werent just fixes for the bugs they introduced in the last hotfix?

We being the community... It's something people have been asking CA for for literal years.

Getting fixes is always good, no matter when the bugs were introduced. It helps to avoid stuff happening like when Nakai had seven units he couldn't recruit, including his most critical unit, for five whole months when it was a 2 second change - people hated that.

Not if those "fixes" introduce even worse bugs. Thats why when they were introduced matters. "The community wanted hotfixes" is an empty talking point. People wanted less of a buggy mess. Hotfixes had the opposite effect. They are badly tested and break more then they fix. And what they fix are non-issues in comparison.

I dont think you understand that with the last row of hotfixes a lot of vanilla players can no longer play the game without constant CTDs. We are not talking about some inconvenience with modding, but no longer being able to play the game you payed for due to absurd mismanagement.