Green Knight may be the most gimped mechanic/legendary hero in the game

[Burgerpunk 2020]

He is only useful in early game and is a LH that cannot be leveled up or equipped, can't choose the place where he's being summoned or do ANY hero actions with him (except scouting ruins) either.

There's always that moment in every Bretonnia campaign where he becomes just a glorified map revealer with normal paladins being a better choice for any army.

[Yellowdragon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3320245267

[Lain]

he's also one of the oldest heroes in the game aswell no? - goes to show how bad bretonnia needs an update

[Aleera]

He's the actual first legendary hero to ever exist, the only one that came from game 1.

[Burgerpunk 2020]

Originally posted by Lain:

he's also one of the oldest heroes in the game aswell no? - goes to show how bad bretonnia needs an update :WH3_greasus_rofl:

Yeah, it really shows, GK is in a really awkward spot where he's useful and crucial to Bretonnian early game but really falls off somewhere in the middle of campaign.

Armoury buildings stacking factionwide bonuses are the only thing that somewhat keeps him from utter irrelevance late game.

Originally posted by Yellowdragon:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3320245267

GK is completely overpowered in that mod.

Changing GK with stats he has right now in vanilla into factionwide battle ability instead of campaign map hero is one option but that would be difficult to balance regarding the number of uses and it would leave the faction without embeddable LH anyway.

Bretonnia actually has a lot of named original characters that could be added as LHs but CA said something about "Bretonnia being complete and not having anything added anymore" so here we are.

There's even Warhammer Robin Hood, Bertrand the Brigand with his band of Merry Men, he was in the army list and had his own model on tabletop,

The main thing is that Bretonnia actually would have enough material for a large update or small DLC if GW gave CA some leeway and also let them add things from Old World tabletop where they actually got a bit of roster expansion.

Sergeant-at-Arms would make a great generic peasant support hero (of course he wouldn't use the knightly vows mechanic) with armywide, passive and activated ability buffs for peasant units.

Faceless for generic assassin/map agent hero type.

Any of them would be good fit for scouting/mobility/scavenging hero when embedded.

Foot Knights with sword with board and anti large AP variants but with quite hefty upkeep , 500, 600 or even more (depending on statline) without Grail Vow because every one of these haughty ♥♥♥♥♥ wouldn't get off their high horse and suffer the indignity of fighting like peasants for anyone who didn't drink from the sacred bathwater cup (unless paid double that is).

Truffle hounds for the usual infantry chasing dog type unit.

Maybe some weapon variants for the Foot Squires (sword and shield version, hybrid with bow version).

None of this will ever officialy happen though because support for TW3 is already ending and CA cares about Bretonnia even less than GW does.

[Da_Higg]

When have they said they are not doing anything with Bretonia? last I heard they were saying they had ideas for changes they could make.

[Burgerpunk 2020]

Originally posted by Da_Higg:

When have they said they are not doing anything with Bretonia? last I heard they were saying they had ideas for changes they could make.

They said that Bretonnian roster is complete so guess what that means. Bretonnia may get some fixes in patches and at some point CA maybe even changes how Green Knight works in update but there is no chance for a new DLC.

[Apollyon]

Originally posted by Da_Higg:

When have they said they are not doing anything with Bretonia? last I heard they were saying they had ideas for changes they could make.

Bretonnia is a FLC race, even Repanse getting added in WH2 was FLC. They are never getting paid DLC, the most you can maybe expect is low quality FLC that ships alongside a big patch.

Other than that, fairly certain CA have stated that they consider Bretonnia to be complete back in an old Warhammer 2 stream and it would seem they're staying true to their word on that.

[sirkudjon]

Gotrek & Felix gets reworked to be pernament hero though their quest battle sucks ass.
Maybe we will have a green knight rework when bretonnia will get one too?

[sirkudjon]

Originally posted by The Serpent:

Originally posted by Da_Higg:

When have they said they are not doing anything with Bretonia? last I heard they were saying they had ideas for changes they could make.

Bretonnia is a FLC race, even Repanse getting added in WH2 was FLC. They are never getting paid DLC, the most you can maybe expect is low quality FLC that ships alongside a big patch.

Other than that, fairly certain CA have stated that they consider Bretonnia to be complete back in an old Warhammer 2 stream and it would seem they're staying true to their word on that.

Vampire Counts was also FLC and yet we know we will get Neferrata.

[Apollyon]

Originally posted by sirkudjon:

Originally posted by The Serpent:

Bretonnia is a FLC race, even Repanse getting added in WH2 was FLC. They are never getting paid DLC, the most you can maybe expect is low quality FLC that ships alongside a big patch.

Other than that, fairly certain CA have stated that they consider Bretonnia to be complete back in an old Warhammer 2 stream and it would seem they're staying true to their word on that.

Vampire Counts was also FLC and yet we know we will get Neferrata.

Don't know what you're on about, but you're wrong. Vampire Counts are an OG race that already has DLC (The Grim and The Grave all the way back in WH1), they just haven't gotten any new content since forever lol. Neferata has to be coming soon and with her a rework to the VC mechanics that we've been waiting for since WH2.

[sirkudjon]

Originally posted by The Serpent:

Originally posted by sirkudjon:

Vampire Counts was also FLC and yet we know we will get Neferrata.

Don't know what you're on about, but you're wrong. Vampire Counts are an OG race that already has DLC (The Grim and The Grave all the way back in WH1), they just haven't gotten any new content since forever lol. Neferata has to be coming soon and with her a rework to the VC mechanics that we've been waiting for since WH2.

Well maybe but I did not remember paying anything for Manfred, Vlad and Isabella where they were army leaders back then. Though again I didn't play much in W1. It picked my intrest since W2 and addition of High Elves and Dark Elves. And now fast forward to w3 today and my faction of choice is suprisingly Cathay. Though I still play asur asrai and druchi alot. BTW what sort of VC rework Neferatta can bring other than new faction starting point and some new units? Rework to BK?
My guess is that she will be a feature of the last DLC The End Times. Though I doubt CA will ever have balls to release it because basicly that is a whole new campaign. Reshuffle of old IE assets will not do.

[Apollyon]

Originally posted by sirkudjon:

Originally posted by The Serpent:

Don't know what you're on about, but you're wrong. Vampire Counts are an OG race that already has DLC (The Grim and The Grave all the way back in WH1), they just haven't gotten any new content since forever lol. Neferata has to be coming soon and with her a rework to the VC mechanics that we've been waiting for since WH2.

Well maybe but I did not remember paying anything for Manfred, Vlad and Isabella where they were army leaders back then. Though again I didn't play much in W1. It picked my intrest since W2 and addition of High Elves and Dark Elves. And now fast forward to w3 today and my faction of choice is suprisingly Cathay. Though I still play asur asrai and druchi alot. BTW what sort of VC rework Neferatta can bring other than new faction starting point and some new units? Rework to BK?

I still don't know what you're on about. The Vampire Counts were one of the original races of WH1, as I said. You're rambling incoherently, at this point.

[sirkudjon]

Originally posted by The Serpent:

Originally posted by sirkudjon:

Well maybe but I did not remember paying anything for Manfred, Vlad and Isabella where they were army leaders back then. Though again I didn't play much in W1. It picked my intrest since W2 and addition of High Elves and Dark Elves. And now fast forward to w3 today and my faction of choice is suprisingly Cathay. Though I still play asur asrai and druchi alot. BTW what sort of VC rework Neferatta can bring other than new faction starting point and some new units? Rework to BK?

I still don't know what you're on about. The Vampire Counts were one of the original races of WH1, as I said. You're rambling incoherently, at this point.

That's why i said MAYBE. And I said I did not play W1 much so if they were og faction of the game I couldn't even remember them because I played about 10 turns od Thorgrim and then I dropped the game. At that time my PC was ♥♥♥♥.