Why are we being asking to beta test a AAA budget game?

[Mooselager]

Why aren't CA using their funds & budget to properly bugscreen & test their own game before releasing?

A lone hero agent was preventing armies from attacking because they were being mistaken
for armies. Please tell me a manager was fired over this lengthy oversight?

[Skurio]

Immortalis님이 먼저 게시:

As for the rest, the reality is that no game and no program in general is free from bug and there is absolutely no chance it would ever stop being the case.
Tens of thousands of players will inevitably end up encountering bugs that the QA failed to recognise or anticipate, since at their very best, QA is made up of tens of people.
I'm sorry if you fail to recognise it but, whilst it would be nice to have a perfect product, the reality is that such a thing will never happen; and we might as well recognise it instead of pretending to be offended by something that is inevitable.

You are presenting a false dilemma. Bug free being impossible doesnt mean testing servers are not a good idea and standard practice in most industries. They are how we as a species currently deal with the reality that software does have bugs and QA being unable to catch them all. If you are unfamiliar with the concept might i suggest looking into the nightly builds for for example firefox or wows testing servers? Opt-in large scale pre releases are nothing exotic or novel. And looking at the forums CA shouldnt be lacking volunteers.

>He's specifically saying that this beta test has to do with bug fixing, which is not true at all.

My mistake. I read it as the current release being a defacto bug hunting beta and misread your position as a general statement.

edit: Might this be at the core of the misunderstand in this thread? I am not displayed any available opt in beta patches. Complaining that one of those had bugs would indeed be naive. Given the lack of a current testing branch i read it as a complaint about not doing the hot fix release cycles on one.

[Zoey]

You can't expect a proper QA team to test each and every patch for a game that has been out for such a long time. QA teams are typically outsourced and even then costly. There would be no reason to pay a professional QA team to test each and every patch before public release.

It also wouldn't be as effective. By allowing players to opt into beta patches mattering the size of the community (which is pretty decent numbers for this game) https://steamcharts.com/app/1142710 you can get thousands of players contributing and despite them not being as qualified as a proper QA team the sheer number of them will find and report more than the QA team.

This ends up being the best result for everyone in the end. If you prefer the most stable release then don't opt in to the beta branches.

[HuffingJenkem]

Many eyeballs make all bugs shallow

[Autoro]

Skurio님이 먼저 게시:

Chibbity님이 먼저 게시:

HOW DARE THEY.. *checks notes* ..LOOK TO THE COMMUNITY FOR FEEDBACK ON THEIR NEW AI SO THEY CAN MAKE SURE PLAYERS GET WHAT THEY WANT OUT OF IT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_PPdjD6mg

You have to realize that capslocking some screeching is not a valid discussion strategy.

No other industry just skips testing releases and pushes straight to "stable". This only works by doing it to a captured audience. Getting feedback from the community also works with perfectly fine with testing servers and they are not a novel concept. Its just cheaper/ easier to not ask for voluntary enrollment.

Mate, the Beta's not on the stable branch, yet. What are you talking about? Heck, right now I'm pretty sure they got their feedback, and closed the beta, by now...

[CrazySun625]

I think it's the effects of the pandemic that continue to this day, and they certainly could have developed the game longer to make it complete, but they ran out of money.

[Багряный]

Dirty Fart Goblin님이 먼저 게시:

Why aren't CA using their funds & budget to properly bugscreen & test their own game before releasing?

A lone hero agent was preventing armies from attacking because they were being mistaken
for armies. Please tell me a manager was fired over this lengthy oversight?

The only working argument against scammers is to boycott purchasing their product.

[Big Moustache]

Da_Higg님이 먼저 게시:

To add further to the above, we only see the bugs that get through - we don't know how many issues CA's QA testing caught and fixed

They can not catch a dead dryed out fly glued on their wind shield. Some bugs are persistant through several titles and than introduced into WH series. Than the bs excuse that they can not recreate the bug. And bug stays forever as a semi feature

[Solvem Probler]

Have you lived under a rock for the last 20 or so years? This is the new normal in gaming.

[JaredNomac]

Dirty Fart Goblin님이 먼저 게시:

Why aren't CA using their funds & budget to properly bugscreen & test their own game before releasing?

A lone hero agent was preventing armies from attacking because they were being mistaken
for armies. Please tell me a manager was fired over this lengthy oversight?

This is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read in a long time

[Solvem Probler]

These are the same people that "somehow" failed to notice the elevation bonus for units from hills was reversed so the ones with the high ground would get a malus in Rome 2.
To answer the question: No, they don't play their own game, they probably have never finished their own campaign either.

[killtastic201]

bro thinks this game has a "massive budget" and "funds". Bro thinks they even know who they would even fire over this "oversight". Bro thinks that this company can afford to fire more long term talent over a single developer oversight on a 10 year old project. bro thinks a manager should be fired for the bug that he didn't code.

as bad as the people who make total war warhammer 3 are, at least they aren't this guy, lmfao. dude would single handedly run CA into the ground.

For everyone else, the context: this game has a very limited budget. its just enough to afford limited DLC production, and barely enough to fund cleaning the code base up. the managers overseeing code base development are typically going to be senior coders who have long term experience with the engine, code base, and loads of strong coding skills.

after shadows of change, hyenas, and the warhammer 3 launch fiasco this game is on a incredibly short leash. More resources are very likely being pushed towards CA's next large title (read as total war warhammer 40k) which will either make or break the company. If it succeeds the leash will be let loose again and CA will have the room it needs to breath. if it fails Sega will likely come in with a sledgehammer, and turn CA into a mobile gatcha slop company, and the total war franchise will likely be shelved permanently.

[Sarumoon]

"Why are we being asking to beta test a AAA budget game?"


Cuz who else would do it for free?

As always, the answers to all your questions, is money.

[Selah]

Along with what many others have said, thank goodness; the testing of upcoming / probable changes-updates to the game is a GOOD thing that is occurring. This is definitely a proper move on the end of CA / the devs. Since all the drama-DLC issues of the past, they have restructured & been on the road to improving all things & making better on it all; and for this, I am also very glad for / it is very satisfying to see.

(Either this OP's question is a "ragebait" or whatever it is called, or is a question/statement coming from a not-well-thought or considered line of thinking...)

[dulany67]

Big Karen energy.

[Unknown-Alcho-Gamer]

i've found CA does this because they are desperate to keep customers(shareholders who have paid in) and players. We are not the same thing. after the failure to get three kingdoms players in tow we saw the fall. there will never be a great CA total war game again. even if they do launch a MEW3 it will be done poorly. the focus on too much "pazaaz" and not enough or at all gameplay the older audience loved. RIP CA and the total war franchise..And i truely weep for this.