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Sir Palotti Jan 2 @ 2:45pm
Is even possible to win a Legendary campaign with Archaon?
As the title says, is even possible to do it? because it as been like one year of resetting my campaigns because there is literally nothing i can do to strategically win. All the chaos lords you are supposed to recruit in your faction dies like in 10 turns, my vassals are completely useless no matter how many i have and how many regions i gave them (they build stacks of marauders and they get beaten by the easiest of treaths), the Empire factions, Kislev and Dawis just form a massive alliance, steamrolling every faction they find on their way (at turn 40 i saw Bretonnia conquering the entire Norsca regions for example), letting me with like 3 armies having to fight like 30 enemy elite armies, this has happened every time. Is like that the game is not designed to make an Archaon campaign possible at Legendary difficulty.
Before you ask, even the Vampire factions get melted in like 20 turns.

Tell me your experience, even some tips or strategies are appreciated because i can't be the only one that having this issue with Archaon, despite being one on the coolest factions to play imo.

P.S.
Yes i've done other legendary campaigns, the last one i did was with the Empire with Franz doing a full conquest of the map so i know how unforgiving Legendary campaign is.
Last edited by Sir Palotti; Jan 3 @ 12:31am
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Wubbinz Jan 2 @ 2:55pm 
If I remember correctly Archaon's victory conditions are all about destroying order factions so I'm not sure what the issue is that you're having? All you need to do is take your broken ass WoC troops and dunk on the other factions. Warriors of Chaos (especially Archaon) are some of the easiest campaigns to do.
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identity Jan 2 @ 3:38pm 
Vassalize all chaos, even all the legendary lords, imo. Better to have them as colonizers so you don't have to do everything yourself.
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StrangestEcho Jan 2 @ 6:23pm 
Archaon should be one of the easiest campaigns in the game, so I have no idea what's going on here. Did you break the campaign balance with mods? Are you misunderstanding how they should be played?
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FizzMan Jan 2 @ 6:35pm 
Yes he gets so much tech and souls buffs, am quite confused why it's so challenging for you?

Your Norscan vassals just provide you income and some nice distractions.

Are you building outposts in your vassals territory?
They give you free units. :^)

The other Chaos Lords aren't that tough to confederate, I usually also create a second Lord turn 1 to head east and grab Kholek Sunnyside.
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Lampros Jan 2 @ 7:58pm 
Originally posted by StrangestEcho:
Archaon should be one of the easiest campaigns in the game, so I have no idea what's going on here. Did you break the campaign balance with mods? Are you misunderstanding how they should be played?

Exactly.
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Dagy47 Jan 2 @ 8:06pm 
Originally posted by Sir Palotti:
Is even possible to win a Legendary campaign with Archaon?
yes.


*there, thats literaly all this thread should have been, without the unecessary clutter...
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Nixxo Jan 2 @ 9:21pm 
No. not possible... Never been done.
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Basarab Laiota Jan 2 @ 10:29pm 
bruh Warriors of Chaos is easy.....
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$alamander Jan 2 @ 10:53pm 
This is giving me deja vu. Because he had the hardest campaign in the game on legendary (IMO).... in WH1. Now he is dummy easy.
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Faptor Jan 2 @ 11:00pm 
Originally posted by $alamander:
This is giving me deja vu. Because he had the hardest campaign in the game on legendary (IMO).... in WH1. Now he is dummy easy.
Not true. He was easy as pie in WH1, When Big Bird showed up it could brick your game if you weren't prepared but other than that it was easy street.
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Sir Palotti Jan 3 @ 12:17am 
Originally posted by Wubbinz:
If I remember correctly Archaon's victory conditions are all about destroying order factions so I'm not sure what the issue is that you're having? All you need to do is take your broken ass WoC troops and dunk on the other factions. Warriors of Chaos (especially Archaon) are some of the easiest campaigns to do.

The issue i am having? hmm, ah yes, the entire Empire factions, Kislev and Dawis just making a giant crusade destroing all my vassals and alliances, levaving me with nothing to fight them. That's the issue.
Btw, i know that the WoC units are broken, but they are useles against doomstacks of elite cav and artillery armies, expecially when there are like 20 of them all over the map
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Sir Palotti Jan 3 @ 12:20am 
Originally posted by identity:
Vassalize all chaos, even all the legendary lords, imo. Better to have them as colonizers so you don't have to do everything yourself.

The issue here is that even by making all a lot of vassals (at least the ones i can do), they rarely colonize regions even this the colonise command, they always go where they want usually. And for the legendary lords, the only one i managed to get saw Kholek at turn 10, but the others just get deleted by the other factions.
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Sir Palotti Jan 3 @ 12:22am 
Originally posted by StrangestEcho:
Archaon should be one of the easiest campaigns in the game, so I have no idea what's going on here. Did you break the campaign balance with mods? Are you misunderstanding how they should be played?

No mods, all vanilla.
More than vassallise every faction i beat and level up my marauders to get the Aspiring champions, idk waht to do, i always get destroyed by the Kislev and Empire massive alliance before i even manage to conquer half of the chaos regions on the north.
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Sir Palotti Jan 3 @ 12:24am 
Originally posted by FizzMan:
Yes he gets so much tech and souls buffs, am quite confused why it's so challenging for you?

Your Norscan vassals just provide you income and some nice distractions.

Are you building outposts in your vassals territory?
They give you free units. :^)

The other Chaos Lords aren't that tough to confederate, I usually also create a second Lord turn 1 to head east and grab Kholek Sunnyside.

Kholek might be the only one i manage to confederate, but the other lords just are impossible to confederate because they get defeated super fast.
The vassals armies beign distractions might even work, but the problem is that their armies are not even that good, because almost all my enemies has silver or golden chavrons elite units.
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Sir Palotti Jan 3 @ 12:26am 
Originally posted by Dagy47:
Originally posted by Sir Palotti:
Is even possible to win a Legendary campaign with Archaon?
yes.


*there, thats literaly all this thread should have been, without the unecessary clutter...

Have to tried to play it actually? Because is like one year of attempts and i always end up with my allies and vassals getting melted by the Kislev and Dawis at turn 40
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