Slaanesh needs girls 💜

[Fen'Harel]

Joking title but serious meaning. I think that for new DLC Slaanesh faction is long overdue for some female lords and units in his/hers roster. Not only more variety is always welcome regardless of faction (just like Valkia stands out among Khorn armies or Elspeth in Empire), but it also gives an oportunity to flesh out some aspects of Slaaneshe's theme better. Scripted interactions, story battles or diplomacy dialogue evolving around manipulating and seducing mostly male cast of the game and without any Chaos Magic like N'kari, just using pre existing, natural desire and ability to utilise it through wits and experience. Or the areas of Slaaneses domain that are better represented through female characters as so far we have demons, male warriors or walking mutations. Beauty of dance, obssesive chase for power and freedom in a medival-like society where you are left powerless towards any common man, let alone nobles and rules of society, manipulating with looks and desire, vanity and chase for most luxurious outfits and goods as something different compared to comic level of narcissism (that is also fun in here, don't get me wrong) that Sigvald represents. etc. ironicaly the closest to that kind of feeling are Morathi and her dark elves from Cult Of Pleasure, with male lord being Sigvald and they are not even Slaanesh faction when it comes to it and not just lore in the background.

So I think some more female lords, heroes and units, not demon ones, just human or mostly human would be something that enriches this faction a lot. Agree, disagree?

[Dagy47]

Originally posted by Fen'Harel:

Slaanesh needs girls 💜

just no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6NdsArvq4U

[Gnarl]

Some corrupted Bretonnian Lady could have been a cool WHF character maybe. Like in Arthurian legends there was that one sorceress who was his half sister or something? Or Merlin's sister? Something. But maybe the Vampires influence took that role, I don't know Bretonnian lore. It could have been neat if she often fought with Prince Sigvald for whatever reason.

Speaking of Vampire Counts, Isabella Von Carstein went Chaos briefly in the End Times and even fought in battles against Vlad. She was described as kind of like all spiked and leathered out like some 1980s punk scene girl. I thought a spikey hair Isabella model in game or on tabletop would have been awesome!

What was N'Kari doing on Ulthuan? That's from lore? Maybe a High Elf corrupted Lady would do as well as a Bretonnian?

[jonoliveira12]

I do not think you get Slaanesh, at all.

Slaanesh is not a he/she, but a "shem", shem's title is "Prince(male) of Darkness", and is fully "for the boys" in the most unholy way possible.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Gnarl:

Some corrupted Bretonnian Lady could have been a cool WHF character maybe. Like in Arthurian legends there was that one sorceress who was his half sister or something? Or Merlin's sister? Something. But maybe the Vampires influence took that role, I don't know Bretonnian lore. It could have been neat if she often fought with Prince Sigvald for whatever reason.

Speaking of Vampire Counts, Isabella Von Carstein went Chaos briefly in the End Times and even fought in battles against Vlad. She was described as kind of like all spiked and leathered out like some 1980s punk scene girl. I thought a spikey hair Isabella model in game or on tabletop would have been awesome!

What was N'Kari doing on Ulthuan? That's from lore? Maybe a High Elf corrupted Lady would do as well as a Bretonnian?

The character you are looking for, is Morgan Le Fay, but she has already been referenced in Warhammer by the Fay Enchantress, whose name is Morgiana.

[Fen'Harel]

And to add to comment above - yeah, N'kari vs High Elves is very much lore wise correct. Most of his lore is about him trying to capture Ulthuan, being defeated and having High Elves as THE most hated enemies of all time. Though N'kari model, man. This should be the archtempter, there is even lots of amazing arts with him when dude is menacing, powerfull and scary. While in his WH3 model he looks like someone punched him in the back of the head so hard that his teeth went way too far out of his head, and then someone stole his lips.

[Fen'Harel]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

I do not think you get Slaanesh, at all.

Slaanesh is not a he/she, but a "shem", shem's title is "Prince(male) of Darkness", and is fully "for the boys" in the most unholy way possible.

His lore says very different things. Slaanesh is all about sexuality and pain which are two most shown traits, but also all about obsession, vanity, pursuit of power, mad ambition, gluttony, pride, jellousy and all the human traits and vices turned up 400% without any restraints, morality or even bounds of human endurence and experience. His title is Prince, but it's for the sake of choosing one of the names. Depending on the worshiper, even among Norsca tribes there will be differences to how Slaanesh is seen by their cult. Slaanesh is androgenus as well as able to both manifest himself in any form both male and female as well as numbers of combination of both.

In simple terms he is all about exploiting humanity and all the flaws it has, while focusing on experiencing everything that is in any way, shape or form experiencable in this world or Chaos Realms.

[Humble]

Originally posted by Gnarl:

Speaking of Vampire Counts, Isabella Von Carstein went Chaos briefly in the End Times and even fought in battles against Vlad. She was described as kind of like all spiked and leathered out like some 1980s punk scene girl. I thought a spikey hair Isabella model in game or on tabletop would have been awesome!

Wow, what happen after that? Is Isabella come back to him, he still love her? I don't know lore, or story, I though both are cool in the game, I thought they both loyal to each other or something.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Fen'Harel:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

I do not think you get Slaanesh, at all.

Slaanesh is not a he/she, but a "shem", shem's title is "Prince(male) of Darkness", and is fully "for the boys" in the most unholy way possible.

His lore says very different things. Slaanesh is all about sexuality and pain which are two most shown traits, but also all about obsession, vanity, pursuit of power, mad ambition, gluttony, pride, jellousy and all the human traits and vices turned up 400% without any restraints, morality or even bounds of human endurence and experience. His title is Prince, but it's for the sake of choosing one of the names. Depending on the worshiper, even among Norsca tribes there will be differences to how Slaanesh is seen by their cult. Slaanesh is androgenus as well as able to both manifest himself in any form both male and female as well as numbers of combination of both.

In simple terms he is all about exploiting humanity and all the flaws it has, while focusing on experiencing everything that is in any way, shape or form experiencable in this world or Chaos Realms.

Nope. Slaanesh is for sexuality of Women + (heavy emphasis on the +), not regular ones. Regular sex is boring for Slaanesh, everything has to be extreme and perverted.

[Enelith]

Originally posted by Humble:

Originally posted by Gnarl:

Speaking of Vampire Counts, Isabella Von Carstein went Chaos briefly in the End Times and even fought in battles against Vlad. She was described as kind of like all spiked and leathered out like some 1980s punk scene girl. I thought a spikey hair Isabella model in game or on tabletop would have been awesome!

Wow, what happen after that? Is Isabella come back to him, he still love her? I don't know lore, or story, I though both are cool in the game, I thought they both loyal to each other or something.

Spoiler.

She was under a "spell" from Nurgle (like Midas, whatever she touched rot and wither / die) and had no choice but to follow her patron until her death (she was totally aware of what she was doing, she wasn't on Hawkeye-"puppet" mode)
During the final battle, Vlad wanted to save her, so he removed his Carstein ring, put it on Isabella's finger and killed her, touching her in the process and died.
Thanks to the ring, Isabella resurrected shortly after, free from Nurgle's influence and cried Vlad's death.



Spoiler 2.

But luckily for her, she didn't cry for long.
Thanks to Mannfred, Archaon succeeded in his "quest", and everything / everyone was destroyed shortly after before the world was remade anew (Edit : a world where Blood Bowl was the way to make war !... ~ no that was probably the AoS world.)

[Humble]

Ah, Thank you for share, I'm glad Vlad is faithful husband till his death, so it's all Nurgle's doing, not Isabella. Good to know.

[D-Black Catto]

Chaos needs girls in general

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by Fen'Harel:

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The only female mortal* champion of Slaanesh i can find any note of in the lore is Dechala the Denied One and she is heavily mutated so she still falls into "walking mutations".

Creative Assembly aren't allowed to just creature whatever they want out of nothing, they need to follow the established setting or have Games Workshop's approval for any additions/changes.

(*Daemons can assume whatever gender they want/need.)

When it comes to generic units its likely possible from a lore perspective, but how the heck do you know the gender of the chaos warriors anyway? They are covered by armor and heavily mutated...

[Enelith]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

Originally posted by Fen'Harel:

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The only female mortal* champion Slaanesh i can think of in the lore is Dechala the Denied One and she is heavily mutated.

Creative Assembly aren't allowed to just creature whatever they want out of nothing, they need to follow the established setting or have Games Workshop's approval for any additions/changes.

(*Daemons can assume whatever gender they want/need and basically use magic to drug you into being attracted to them regardless.)

Based on the Lore,
Dechala should have been the Slaanesh's Champion in CoC, just like Arbaal should have been Khorne's...

Both Valkya and Azazel were definitely daemons...

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by Enelith:

Based on the Lore,
Dechala should have been the Slaanesh's Champion in CoC, just like Arbaal should have been Khorne's...

Both Valkya and Azazel were definitely daemons...

Valkia's lore is somewhat conflicted. Her book series do call her a daemon princess but she was specified to be a mortal mutant in other lore and did not have the daemonic rule in the army book.

The best CoC for Slaanesh would have been Sigvald in my opinion, like the Devs themselves said, if they hadn't already added him earlier.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by D-Black Catto:

Chaos needs girls in general

Only Khorne guys get those.
Tzeentch, Nurgle and Slaanesh do not know what a woman truly even is.