Cold One Knight are bad

[ope84]

Damn they lost against an unit of blue horrors

[franz]

you dont say welcome to 2017

[pascal.difolco]

They always have been

[Garatgh Deloi]

They are indeed bad, they are also anti large (not anti infantry, blue horrors being infantry).

But a unit of cold one knights still completely trash a unit of blue horrors unless there are other factors involved.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3396940838 (One mod used allowing me to do the battle without a lord)

[Louis Cypher]

In 99% of all cases the player controlling the Cold One Knight is the incapable one

[robert.s_a]

Try orc boar boyz, they cant even beat miners.

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by robert.s_a:

Try orc boar boyz, they cant even beat miners.

Orc boar boyz beat miners in a straight up fight without additional factors being involved. They win even more when cycle charged.

Without cycle charging: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397185168 With cycle charging: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397185292 (One mod used allowing me to do the battle without a lord)

The version with blasting charges might change things, but when i tested it they generally never got their blasting charge off before contact (the boar boys moving to quickly).

Keep in mind that stuff like campaign buffs, being tired, or even fighting uphill* can make all the difference to a units effectiveness in this game.

*A unit of spearmen can beat a unit of swordmen if the spearmen has the high ground:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/ff1-elevation/

[kekkuli]

Originally posted by robert.s_a:

Try orc boar boyz, they cant even beat miners.

Boar boyz are amazing, skill issue.

[Krude]

Always have been sadly.

[Ashley]

They have to be cause good units make the multiplayer nerds upset (fell bats are op)

[SBA77]

Originally posted by ope84:

Cold One Knight are bad. Damn they lost against an unit of blue horrors

Originally posted by robert.s_a:

Try orc boar boyz, they cant even beat miners.

Why do I get the feeling that a bunch of people's issue here is not how knowing to use cavalry.

[Human bean]

Originally posted by SBA77:

Originally posted by ope84:

Cold One Knight are bad. Damn they lost against an unit of blue horrors

Originally posted by robert.s_a:

Try orc boar boyz, they cant even beat miners.

:monstertrainhmm: Why do I get the feeling that a bunch of people's issue here is not how knowing to use cavalry.

Thats why some people dont like Bretonnia I think

[fenlander]

Originally posted by ope84:

Damn they lost against an unit of blue horrors

Cold Ones are a waste of gold, don't bother with them.

[Human bean]

Originally posted by fenlander:

Originally posted by ope84:

Damn they lost against an unit of blue horrors

Cold Ones are a waste of gold, don't bother with them.

Cold ones are fast and lethal. Perfect for flanking

[SBA77]

Originally posted by Human bean:

Originally posted by SBA77:

Why do I get the feeling that a bunch of people's issue here is not how knowing to use cavalry.

Thats why some people dont like Bretonnia I think

I never thought it about it that way. I think you just solved another mystery. Though Brettonians are still smelly and muddy and smell like their horses :p

[cjwasright]

Cold ones are good against things that cause pain for your darkshards/shades, like flyers and cavalry. They have anti large and IIRC armor-piercing, useful against enemy monstrous infantry, SE flyers and cavalry units. Not fantastic at it, but the Delfs don't have another unit in their roster that can fill this exact same role. So, Cold ones should be seen as a sort of "defensive" cavalry, used to react to threats to your firing line.

The worst unit in the game have to be the screamers of Tzeentch. I can't imagine why anyone would recruit it over any fury unit (which are one of the weakest units in a Tzeentch roster, useful only for their flying ability).