Horde Factions

[Zane]

So watching some video's of WH3 Immortal Empires and I noticed that the Warriors of Chaos Faction is no longer a Horde faction. They have "Dark fortresses" as main cities and then "vassals" for everywhere else. I'm not fully understanding what goings on. Seeing how an entire faction went from Horde to i guess Semi normal compared to everyone else is quite bit disappointing. It only leaves Nakai and Beastmen as Horde faction / Horde leader. Unless that changes as well.

Is there a reason that CA is moving further away from Horde factions or are we going to get more as DLC in the future? I know that Warriors of Chaos didn't have a mechanic like Nakai and beastmen (after update) to prevent people from simply retaking cities when you weren't around. As well as the community wanting a Warriors of chaos rework that would give them some mechanic that would prevent people from simply retaking empty cities when you weren't around. However it seems like they just tossed the entire horde aspect into the trash.

I simple just enjoy domination and not worry about city building or having my cities really attacked and Horde factions (other than Nakai who's still fun) kinda of gave that to me. Focus on your army and pure destruction since your horde factions "building slots" could build everything they had.

[Autoro]

Full Horde factions have, and always will, suck complete and utter ass when compared to a non-horde, or semi-horde faction.

Even the two examples you listed for horde factions, Nakai and Beastmen, are semi-hordes, with a means to hold ground to prevent enemies from recolonizing easily.

Sorry that your favored method of playing is getting left in the dust, but tbh... I really didn't like old WoC, and always got a mod that let me settle down, and build an empire. Really like how it looks now, though, with dark fortresses that provide you with everything you want, and let you have a vassal. Honestly, I'm planning on giving just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of land to my vassals in exchange for money. Don't have to worry about building up an empire if someone else is doing it for me.

[Zane]

Originally posted by Autoro:

Full Horde factions have, and always will, suck complete and utter ass when compared to a non-horde, or semi-horde faction.

Even the two examples you listed for horde factions, Nakai and Beastmen, are semi-hordes, with a means to hold ground to prevent enemies from recolonizing easily.

Sorry that your favored method of playing is getting left in the dust, but tbh... I really didn't like old WoC, and always got a mod that let me settle down, and build an empire. Really like how it looks now, though, with dark fortresses that provide you with everything you want, and let you have a vassal. Honestly, I'm planning on giving just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of land to my vassals in exchange for money. Don't have to worry about building up an empire if someone else is doing it for me.

Old warriors of chaos wasn't really fun, I played the everchosen once, steam rolled through everything cause his units are just superior (easy difficulty) and just ended it when the long campaign requirement was met because there was no point in trying to have a "full empty map". Plus if i remember correctly the faction was melee dominant outside a siege unit and the horsemen with spears was kinda of boring too. I was hoping the rework would bring life and variety which seems like thats what it did, however the horde mechanic was completely removed which was ultimately upsetting. Its not a break it or make it situation for me however it makes me afraid of not getting anymore Horde DLC factions / leaders.

[alpharender33]

They are are still a horde because you don't really have to manage an empire, you get your units from the lands and gift itself and make money from fighting. Dark Fortress are fine because they are rare and minor settlements you are supooosed to raze or give vassals.

[Darth Alpharius]

Nakai is the only true horde left.

[Zane]

Originally posted by alpharender33:

They are are still a horde because you don't really have to manage an empire, you get your units from the lands and gift itself and make money from fighting. Dark Fortress are fine because they are rare and minor settlements you are supooosed to raze or give vassals.

Watched a youtube video and it didn't go into detail about dark fortress's so i just assumed they exist in any part of the chaos wasteland which is quite big, but again could be wrong cause i dont know anything except they exist.

[Darth Alpharius]

Originally posted by Zane:

Originally posted by alpharender33:

They are are still a horde because you don't really have to manage an empire, you get your units from the lands and gift itself and make money from fighting. Dark Fortress are fine because they are rare and minor settlements you are supooosed to raze or give vassals.

Watched a youtube video and it didn't go into detail about dark fortress's so i just assumed they exist in any part of the chaos wasteland which is quite big, but again could be wrong cause i dont know anything except they exist.

think Wood Elves and Outposts its basically that.

[Zane]

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

Originally posted by Zane:

Watched a youtube video and it didn't go into detail about dark fortress's so i just assumed they exist in any part of the chaos wasteland which is quite big, but again could be wrong cause i dont know anything except they exist.

think Wood Elves and Outposts its basically that.

oof i'm playing through wood elves the treant leader and i'm realizing the outposts don't give income... let alone anything useful really outside of growth faction wide. Makes it hard to have multiple elite armies outside of 1 per great tree. Not sure if thats intentional or not but I hope that gets fixed in Immortal Empires.

[Jerroser]

Originally posted by Zane:

Originally posted by alpharender33:

They are are still a horde because you don't really have to manage an empire, you get your units from the lands and gift itself and make money from fighting. Dark Fortress are fine because they are rare and minor settlements you are supooosed to raze or give vassals.

Watched a youtube video and it didn't go into detail about dark fortress's so i just assumed they exist in any part of the chaos wasteland which is quite big, but again could be wrong cause i dont know anything except they exist.

They seem to be a select group of lone settlements doted around the world. But the biggest concentration of them is in the Chaos Wastelands.

Regarding the Wood Elf comparison, they seem to work a similar manner settlement wise where you have very limited options in the outposts and almost all the buildings that matter will be in the Dark Fortresses. But based on what they've shown so far, they have a much more generous economy. Since their main goal still to wipe out all the other factions, while the WE's a supposed to keep a much tighter force protecting only the magic forest settlements. The WoC are also encoraged to fill the gap in between their fortresses with (mostly Norscan) vassals.

[Ashley]

All my homies hate hordes

People said they weren't fun and I guess CA agreed.

[Zane]

Originally posted by Achungus Amongus:

All my homies hate hordes

People said they weren't fun and I guess CA agreed.

Seems that way, maybe i can find a mod where one leader of every faction can have a horde option. At the very least I hope one greenskin dlc leader can be a Horde faction :/

[Dee]

I Like Hoarde Factions As I Mostly Play Beastmen , But If There Are No New Hoarde Factions In TWW3 Then Maybe Its Pointless Me Buying It .

[Dieter]

This thread was quite old before the recent post, so we're locking it to prevent confusion.