How to kill Valkia and Siegwald in combat?

[aNØØBis]

My friend playing as Tirion, always confronts these two in the north. And each battle we can not kill both of them. They just ignore whole stack of arrows from archers and never die. How to kill them by playing High Elves? Since their arrows have almost 0 AP and most of the unit is sheeeeet. And my friend do not have any High elves dlc, so he do not have any new and renown units at all. Only vanilla roster. I also tried to help him by providing my mortars and they also do not harm these two lords. Help please.

[Garatgh Deloi]

Isn't a on foot Tyrion able to solo Valkia at the very least? (She is anti large).

[Mky]

Guns, more guns, or lots of arrows with a reduce armor spell.

[Riqcrow]

unless those legendary lords are "unbreakable" (to my knowledge, not), focusing their armies and destroying rest of the units makes them flee in the end aswell. Valkia is one tanky bastard and with her items more so, only Grombrindal can beat her ass easily in a duel (my experience).

[pachusdfr]

I wonder why on earth they created an (almost?) invulnerable character. I think it's pointless.

[Mky]

They are not invuln tho. They are vulnerable to armor pen missile troops.

Also, sigvald is vulnerable to some monstruous units or lords like Bel'akor.

Beside that, it's really cool to have a very few insanely strong lords in this world. It feels normal to me.

[Andrewbh2003]

tyrion can beat both of em in a duel pretty sure

[Anvos]

Combat lords are generally just ignore them and deal with their army, while playing keep away with the valuable units they can wreck. Preferably as well throwing debuffs to their attack/damage on if you can.

[Lawlman Griff]

Mortars are useless against lords and other single entities, you want cannon or handgunner type units for that kind of thing. A light mage to root and concentrated fire from those kinds of AP missile units should deal with most high value targets.

[fmalfeas]

They're single entity armored duelist lords. This means that you literally CANNOT fight them like you would normal troops. This means regular arrows are almost worthless against them, and *mortars* are completely worthless against them.

Elven bolt throwers can work if you can hit them with single-shot mode.

Rifles and cannons can work.

Tyrion can meet them head on and fight them, especially with the help of a life or high mage patching him up from a distance.

Other things that can work well are phoenixes and dragons. Eagles can work, but only sorta, because they're not strong enough to win, just to do some damage.

Valkia and Sigvald will each just massacre units of infantry or cavalry sent against them, so keep those away from them if you reasonably can.

Use your mortars on the troops ONLY, and the archers should prefer to target monsters, cavalry, and light infantry (in that order) to get maximum balance of power gain from use of the arrows.

Wasting your ammo on things it doesn't work on uses up *your* balance of power, and will cause army losses defeat condition against you.

[chronobomb]

Death caster will easily deal with them. He doesn't even need any levels.

[SomeGuy1]

Sigvald has a rather pathetic armor piercing value for how high all his other stats are (it's like 20% of his total damage), so an armored and armor piercing SEM will win that duel. A dragon, a lord on a dragon, even a Loremaster of Hoeth (with some help).
He'll regen through Swordmasters though, not enough of the models can attack his small model at a time.

[SpeaksTooFast]

Tyrion with some buffs/debuffs from a caster should work out alright, feel free to support with a noble hero or two. Shadow can be nice for this type of thing with a combo of mindrazor and enfeebling foe. Just try to bait out their timed buffs, then buff your goon squad and engage.

[Ashley]

Tyrone with Sword of Khaine

[fmalfeas]

Originally posted by WALTUH:

Tyrone with Sword of Khaine

Sunfang is plenty. No need to nerf your entire faction with that cursed sword.

[Ashley]

Originally posted by fmalfeas:

Originally posted by WALTUH:

Tyrone with Sword of Khaine

Sunfang is plenty. No need to nerf your entire faction with that cursed sword.

Plenty isn't enough