Watched tons of streams and literally everyone hates the chaos realms and rifts

[chris23162]

I have bought this and will give it a bit of a play but I never played one and have never even done the first ritual in two, I play the combined map almost exclusively because the campaigns are boring as they feel forced. I can see this one being the worst of the bunch, I would like to suggest that each chaos realms has things you can collect not just the current two and getting a soul gives you a faction wide buff to make going out of your way to get them worth it, then have it so you can build a level three building that prevents the spawning of chaos gates in that province. This way you can prevent the spawning of chaos gates in your provinces by sacrificing a build slot, massively reducing the need for hero's to close gates by no longer needing tons of them.

Lastly have it be the same as two in that if someone beats you to the end battle you can beat them and then they can never try again, I mean come on if the have lost right in front of the gods they would never be allowed near to try again. Can we also get reworks for most factions as the ice court makes zero sense for anyone but katarin so the other two should get their own mechanics, same with cathay the defend the wall mechanic makes no sense for the one not on the wall and the trade mechanic makes zero sense for the wall defenders.

Hopefully these will be sorted or there will be mods to sort them as the game looks great, just really unfun in its current form. Will play it on and off till the release of the combined map which I'm excited to get to play as we can finally have more than just two player.

[Cat®]

Have you considered the possibility that unlike everyone else, that you in particular will actually love this campaign and wish you had more campaigns like it?

[Boris Guy]

I'm not gonna judge until I try it for myself, Maybe after 700 hours I too might hate it but I don't play games 24/7 till my brain cells fry.

I thought vortex was fine and mortal empires is nice only thing that might get annoying is the random rifts.

[Kinja]

I haven't watched many streams but from what i gathered in the 3 reviews i watched it's not that they hate the Chaos Realms. They hate the fact that the portals keep spawning even after you beat the campaigns and make it completely unfun to paint the map after you win, which i'm fine with since i don't enjoy painting the map anyway.

Either way, unless i'm mistaken Chaos Realms are going to be completely gone on the Immortal Empires campaign so it is what it is. You only have a month or two of "suffering".

[Professor H. Farnsworth]

Winning a campaign shouldn't need to be incentivized, not with factionwide buffs nor anything else and grabbing one of them items from either Khorne or Slaanesh will see you lose them the minute you enter another realm - that and other people can steal them so eh.

Secondly, you don't have to win the campaign by getting the souls and doing the final battle, you can win by taking over 50 settlements and destroying the other major factions at least that was what I coudl gather from a streamer and the win conditions.

Gates keep spawning because Chaos never stops. That and they are insanely useful for traversing the map.

The Ice Court actually makes sense just to have for Katarin and not for Kostaltyn, so I get that.

Both Miau and Zhao are tasked with defending the wall. It is their duty as Dragons. It will always be their duty as dragons, just like Cathay in general just have caravans going out. It is just how Cathay does business.

You have no clue if it is unfun, because you have not played the game, you have watched other people play the game and that is it. From watching gameplay all you can surmise is whether the bugs are something you can live with and maybe a vague idea of the mechanics of each faction.
If I had taken to heart the horrendous ways that most streamers played Nurgle with barely any interaction with the plague mechanic, I'd also be of the opinion that Nurgle sucks, but it so happens that I realized early on that Nurgle rely on his campaign mechanic more so than any other faction for battles and that he gets some insanely powerful plagues. That's the sort of faction I love to play. The strategy that goes into a Nurgle playthrough outweighs the derp Khorne Warriors goes bonk.

[Professor H. Farnsworth]

Originally posted by Kinja:

I haven't watched many streams but from what i gathered in the 3 reviews i watched it's not that they hate the Chaos Realms. They hate the fact that the portals keep spawning even after you beat the campaigns and make it completely unfun to paint the map after you win, which i'm fine with since i don't enjoy painting the map anyway.

Either way, unless i'm mistaken Chaos Realms are going to be completely gone on the Immortal Empires campaign so it is what it is. You only have a month or two of "suffering".

No, they said that the jury was still out on whether the Chaos Realms will persist in the combined map. In fact most people would like them to be there in some form. I would like them to be there. I mean.. Travelling from Cathay to Lustria is going to be a pain in the ass without them.

[Kinja]

Originally posted by Professor H. Farnsworth:

No, they said that the jury was still out on whether the Chaos Realms will persist in the combined map. In fact most people would like them to be there in some form. I would like them to be there. I mean.. Travelling from Cathay to Lustria is going to be a pain in the ass without them.

You're right about the travel, at the same time it's going to be an even more massive pain in the ass to get all those negatives and have enemies teleport into your lands unless you keep characters around everywhere to shut them off.

[MrSoul]

like objectively everyone? damn Ray.

Seriously though, why would pre-order this game if dont own 1, and barely played 2?

Not trying be a ♥♥♥♥ but big reason to pre-order is that you have existing content from first two games (and, well obviously want to play this game), ie this is a for sure expenditure in gaming I know going to make, and I dont care about saving money cos ultimately, kinda losing out without third game and the carry over of content.

for you my friend, why not just wait till on sale instead of getting so bent out of shape about something only heard about through hearsay and social garbage stuff? Either refund the game, or try it out and learn form your own opinions.

Don't group think kids.

[Professor H. Farnsworth]

Originally posted by Kinja:

Originally posted by Professor H. Farnsworth:

No, they said that the jury was still out on whether the Chaos Realms will persist in the combined map. In fact most people would like them to be there in some form. I would like them to be there. I mean.. Travelling from Cathay to Lustria is going to be a pain in the ass without them.

You're right about the travel, at the same time it's going to be an even more massive pain in the ass to get all those negatives and have enemies teleport into your lands unless you keep characters around everywhere to shut them off.

They could just keep the Chaos Realms as something we can control and the portals as something that'll pop up every X turns and disappear after X which we can use to teleport around the world, I mean.. You won't know where it connects so.. You may end up in a place you didn't want to go and discover an enemy you'd have preferred were not discovered (High Elves.. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bastards declare war on everyone).

[Wraith]

This look just like it gonna vortex all over again.

The community will probably be split between immortal empire and those that like the smaller campaign like vortex or Chaos Realm.

[Im Ron Burgandy?]

Originally posted by chris23162:

I have bought this and will give it a bit of a play but I never played one and have never even done the first ritual in two, I play the combined map almost exclusively because the campaigns are boring as they feel forced. I can see this one being the worst of the bunch, I would like to suggest that each chaos realms has things you can collect not just the current two and getting a soul gives you a faction wide buff to make going out of your way to get them worth it, then have it so you can build a level three building that prevents the spawning of chaos gates in that province. This way you can prevent the spawning of chaos gates in your provinces by sacrificing a build slot, massively reducing the need for hero's to close gates by no longer needing tons of them.

Lastly have it be the same as two in that if someone beats you to the end battle you can beat them and then they can never try again, I mean come on if the have lost right in front of the gods they would never be allowed near to try again. Can we also get reworks for most factions as the ice court makes zero sense for anyone but katarin so the other two should get their own mechanics, same with cathay the defend the wall mechanic makes no sense for the one not on the wall and the trade mechanic makes zero sense for the wall defenders.

Hopefully these will be sorted or there will be mods to sort them as the game looks great, just really unfun in its current form. Will play it on and off till the release of the combined map which I'm excited to get to play as we can finally have more than just two player.

Funny most youtubers I seen like them. why do people make posts like this right before a launch?

[Eldi]

They want attention and to seem like they have the correct viewpoint.

Will wait to make my own decisions personally.

[BEEP!]

Yea I probly won't like it much because I like a sandbox I like doing what I want not time gated and forced to do another the Vortex campaign was modded so you could basically do what ever you want without worry about being rushed I'm guessing it will happen here

[LocalDaddy]

Originally posted by Wraith:

This look just like it gonna vortex all over again.

The community will probably be split between immortal empire and those that like the smaller campaign like vortex or Chaos Realm.

Mortal Empires is all I care about. Never completed the main campaign in Warhammer 1 and never played more than an hour of Warhammer 2's campaign.

[[88th] ColPresumptuous]

Originally posted by Kinja:

They hate the fact that the portals keep spawning even after you beat the campaigns and make it completely unfun to paint the map after you win, which i'm fine with since i don't enjoy painting the map anyway.

LegenofTotalWar mentioned that they do infact stop spawning at the end, its just up to the player if they want to go around and close them all, if you close one after a victory it is closed for good, if you dont close one it'll keep popping out armies.

[Oni]

i think they will do lord specific scenarios pretty quickly this game because it would probably get really hectic in the chaos realms if every faction was trying to get in. perhaps they will have two lords per a faction so only one for each damon faction after relece that would probably mean they will be doing damon VS damon dlc for the first two lord packs. dose anyone know if the ogres do the same campane or do they have their own thing going on?