Daniel skill tree

[Hampamatta]

every lord and hero in this game folows the exact same skill tree formula. bit boring but simple, i am fine with that. but Daniel, his skill tree do not follow the same template as literally every single lord and hero in the game. so is that good? NOOOO! its so bad. its too expensive to get the good stuff. the point of his army is to pick the best of all the daemon factons. but in order to get a 15% upkeep reduction on his entire army he needs to spend a whopping 12 skill points. TWELVE! what do other lords have to spend for the same effect? 3... just 3, and some even have additional skills that improve upkeep for specific units.

pair this with no tech tree meaning that daniels faction is so trash compared to unigod faction or even WoC. he cant equip items, his wardrobe mechanic is cool but mostly useless as he is still barely better than a generic lord. without mods Daniel and his faction is easily the worst faction in the game. rework him PLEASE CA.

[KoboldUtopian]

yep

[Velber]

which is why until they update him, playing as him makes mods a must, but the mods are so good i love playing as him
just need a tech tree one now

[KoboldUtopian]

Originally posted by Pseudomonarchiadaiymo:

which is why until they update him, playing as him makes mods a must, but the mods are so good i love playing as him
just need a tech tree one now

Which?

[Karol]

You get the 15% upkeep reduction for each god for 1 point, you get the bloodleting mechanic from khorne faction for another upkeep reduction and then if you really want to you can get extra 15% (for 3 points each god which is bad, but maybe just don't take it?). It's already more upkeep reduction than other factions.
You just can't grab all 4 chaos factions at once. It's best to focus on one and then ad second. If you are starting new game it's way better than normal lord tree. Take nurgle for egzample, you get all the best stuff in one tree line: replenishment, +6/+6 att/def for infantry, 15% upkeep.

Now going to tech tree, it's straight up bugged. Chaos furries don't get any of the buffs from tech tree. Nothing for pestigors or tzangors. But if it worked it would be on parr or better than a tech tree for other demon factions?

His "wardrobe" mechanic is OP comparing to normal equipement. Early on you can make him into regenerating mortis engine to carry any fight, and with fully unlocked tree his item set bonus makes him and his army way better than most legendary lords will give you.

Only thing that's outdated are the buildings that don't generate much money, but then again your upkeep with bloodleting mechanic and tech bonus is really strong. On top of that you get plague mechanic, seduction and teleport/ambush. Like how is this week, and how can you balance this - you have to nerf something, so I'm ok with low building income.

This factions is my favourite and I know you can pick wrong units/points/items and feel very week, but also if you pick the strongest strat (nurgle) you can fell OP and dominate on VH/VH difficulty.

[Velber]

Originally posted by CoerciveUtopian:

Originally posted by Pseudomonarchiadaiymo:

which is why until they update him, playing as him makes mods a must, but the mods are so good i love playing as him
just need a tech tree one now

Which?

godslayer armory mod, any mod that gives him warband upgrades and access to all the other chaos units, the mod that lets him have equip-able items, mods that improve his skill tree, i use those plus others