Late game vampire counts army

[Molester of all Eggs]

I’m sorta stuck on what a late game vampire counts army is supposed to look like. Currently getting bashed around by empire + their new dlc ranged units. Vargheists don’t cut it against the pressure of so many ranged units and neither do varghulfs. Grave guards were already pretty mid/bad back when I played in mortal empires. Am I supposed to be going for some kind of hero spam here?

[Falaris]

Publicado originalmente por Fragoos:

Free skeletons and necromancers is all you need, really. If you can not beat a doomstack than 3vs1 that doomstack in manual battle. The vampire heroes are also solid in any skeleton army for magic, hero killing and fast flying mounts. Once free skeletons are unlocked you can spam them like the cheating AI spams armies. The only limiting factor is running out of lords 😂

Outdated player alert. :)

Free skeletons aren't a thing anymore. They are quite cheap though.

As for the problem... honestly, I am a fairly outdated player as well. I have not properly played a late game vampire counts game in WH3. I would expect blood knights, flyers summoning zombies or interrupting the ranged with fast flyers - the classic ways of interrupting ranged - would still work, though. Having vampire heroes on hellsteeds is an extremely potent and mobile force, and a pendulum or wodeath should encourage the archers to not stand still and shoot for long enough to get the flyers stuck in there.

[sergiomorozov]

Vlad, Vlad and Vlad is all you need.

[Waterworks]

Publicado originalmente por Fragoos:

Free skeletons and necromancers is all you need, really. If you can not beat a doomstack than 3vs1 that doomstack in manual battle. The vampire heroes are also solid in any skeleton army for magic, hero killing and fast flying mounts. Once free skeletons are unlocked you can spam them like the cheating AI spams armies. The only limiting factor is running out of lords 😂

no more free skeletons in WH3 man. That is wh2

[Waterworks]

Publicado originalmente por sergiomorozov:

Vlad, Vlad and Vlad is all you need.

agreed

[Yannir]

Skellies aren't free anymore but the same tactic still works. Counts don't really doomstack, they crapstack. Use your other heroes to snipe anything the skellies have a hard time with while Necromancers/Corpse Carts support the skellies. Use Vargheists and Blood Knights as a hammer. After the battle you can just Raise more skellies to replace the ones you lost in the battle.

[Ska_Boss]

For late game in general, you should be using confederated legendary lords and mostly whatever units said lords buff with their yellow line, even if it's only reduced upkeep. Also hero doomstacks are nice especially when you have lords that buff heroes/single entities like Isabella.

[Waterworks]

Publicado originalmente por Ska_Boss:

For late game in general, you should be using confederated legendary lords and mostly whatever units said lords buff with their yellow line, even if it's only reduced upkeep. Also hero doomstacks are nice especially when you have lords that buff heroes/single entities like Isabella.

I love to roleplay and give strigoi full ghoul crypt horror stacks. But the strongest stacks are heroes by far

[Waterworks]

Publicado originalmente por martignano16:

Publicado originalmente por Ska_Boss:

For late game in general, you should be using confederated legendary lords and mostly whatever units said lords buff with their yellow line, even if it's only reduced upkeep. Also hero doomstacks are nice especially when you have lords that buff heroes/single entities like Isabella.

I love to roleplay and give strigoi full ghoul crypt horror stacks. But the strongest stacks are heroes by far

even powerfull zombie stacks cant handle wind of death spamming

[path2power]

zombie, bat and wolf stacks actually never go out of style for fighting ranged factions as vampire counts. Their elite infantry, monsters and cavalry are for fighting other elite units, you should be overwhelming their ranged armies with garbage that they can't shoot all at once. Save the Vargheists and Blood knights for tanks and landships.

[franz]

dread incarnate hero/lord stack is the only doomstack for VC , if you want to AR anything of value , you have to turn down the difficutly tho for that to work .

[Waterworks]

Publicado originalmente por gg:

dread incarnate hero/lord stack is the only doomstack for VC , if you want to AR anything of value , you have to turn down the difficutly tho for that to work .

Dude Lore keeper stack. Endless vortex spells wind of dead etc. Its unkillable and highly mobile and has no weaknesses

[Waterworks]

Publicado originalmente por path2power:

zombie, bat and wolf stacks actually never go out of style for fighting ranged factions as vampire counts. Their elite infantry, monsters and cavalry are for fighting other elite units, you should be overwhelming their ranged armies with garbage that they can't shoot all at once. Save the Vargheists and Blood knights for tanks and landships.

yea 4 full zombie armies are kick Butt

[Dregora]

You have to understand 1 thing: your army isn't where your damage come from. It comes from your heroes/mortis engine. Engulf them, spam wind of death (easily the strongest wind spell it kills everything) and you'll win. On top of that at later levels your lords become one man armies, at least Vlad/Isabella/Manfred. The other two have their own thing going for them though.

Your vampires are very, very strong.

[Shellbie]

To engage the Empire's ranged units, use hammer and anvil tactics using bats and wolves.