Wildwood Rangers disgustingly OP?

[Lampros]

WTF? They have more Melee Skill than Swordmasters, and it's a tier 2 unit?

[chipofsalt]

I do think they're underrated units and AR hates them, but nowhere near OP. They get shredded by ranged and magic because of their really low armor. I think swordmasters beat them 1v1 though.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by chipofsalt:

I do think they're underrated units and AR hates them, but nowhere near OP. They get shredded by ranged and magic because of their really low armor. I think swordmasters beat them 1v1 though.

Yes, Swordmasters beats them, but they are higher tier, more expensive units. It's more that I don't think anything can compete with Wildwood Rangers at their tier, and basically the Melee Skill number is ridiculous.

[chipofsalt]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by chipofsalt:

I do think they're underrated units and AR hates them, but nowhere near OP. They get shredded by ranged and magic because of their really low armor. I think swordmasters beat them 1v1 though.

Yes, Swordmasters beats them, but they are higher tier, more expensive units. It's more that I don't think anything can compete with Wildwood Rangers at their tier, and basically the Melee Skill number is ridiculous.

Nah, I think plenty of units could. If we're sticking with HE roster, then lothern sea guard which should be able to put out a few volleys before they engage in melee likely could deal with them easily.

[Reaver79]

Sure if you discount the +14 anti inf bonus that swordmasters got..
They also down 50 armour.
Slightly faster.
A minor advantage on charge.
A better split on Base/AP dmg, again the +14 anti inf brings the swordmasters to a much higher amount of AP damage, but only against inf.
They got a bonus v. large in forrest + charge defence large.

On the other hand the swordmasters got +12 MD/ +8 MA as long as they above 25% health.

So if they square up swordmasters are effectively at a MA 58 & 48 MD. Where as the wildwood rangers got a MA 48 & 36 MD.. Sword masters tears em apart.

Oh and they also slightly defended against small type ranged attacks with their 20% block chance.

[Ashley]

Yes and? Saurus do quite well for being low tier this just how some units work compared to others and will beatdown factions frontlines that aren't meleescentric with higher tiered units. Things aren't supposed to be equal. Welcome to game design

[Fendelphi]

Savage Orc Big'Uns beat Woldwood Rangers in melee and they are cheaper as well.
But as with most things in this games, how good a unit is not just about the stats on the info card.

[BIG E.]

Low armor unit with no resistance and mid tier MD.

Its not OP.

This type of unit only gives you moneys worth if you actually charge something armored. They will lose a lot of models regardless of who they are fighting because of their low defensive stats.

So a single unit of tier 1 swordsman actually makes this unit useless. Its not just about beating them because you can get 2 or even 3 trash units for the price of a wildwood rangers. Which also happen to deal extremely good damage to wildwood rangers.