Can Bretonnia confederate ?

[Braderz_12]

So i've conquered like 25% of IE map, Bretonnians are like 280 positive towards me but they refuse to confederate (not that I can even ask them to)

though Im pretty sure I was playing as another faction and one round suddenly half the map belonged to me due to random unprovoked confederation.

[MadArtillery]

Doesn't Bretonia have technology locked confederation?

[Basarab Laiota]

tech tree

[Braderz_12]

Originally posted by Basarab Laiota:

tech tree

Where ? I've researched everything apart from the ones that worsen relationships with other races

[Peskyfletch]

It's definitely in there, two columns of four in a box.

[Tommytools]

Is the OP playing a Brettonian faction? The OP makes it sound (to me at least) like he's not, as there's no Brettonians faction (Rather Louie, Fay, Albie and Joan).

So in case I'm right there: You can only confederate Brettonians if you're actually playing a Brettonian faction, Empire is a different race.

[Basarab Laiota]

Originally posted by Braderz_12:

Originally posted by Basarab Laiota:

tech tree

Where ? I've researched everything apart from the ones that worsen relationships with other races

....Are you playing as Repanse? She can't confederate.

[Braderz_12]

Originally posted by Basarab Laiota:

Originally posted by Braderz_12:

Where ? I've researched everything apart from the ones that worsen relationships with other races

....Are you playing as Repanse? She can't confederate.

De Lyonesse. Can she not ? What a load of BS

[Zeek]

Originally posted by Braderz_12:

Originally posted by Basarab Laiota:

....Are you playing as Repanse? She can't confederate.

De Lyonesse. Can she not ? What a load of BS

She can, just not via technology like the other ones. She's got a different tech tree.

You have to do it the regular diplomatic way.

[Braderz_12]

Originally posted by Zeek:

Originally posted by Braderz_12:

De Lyonesse. Can she not ? What a load of BS

She can, just not via technology like the other ones. She's got a different tech tree.

You have to do it the regular diplomatic way.

what is the regular diplomtic way ?

[HAF DoomsDay]

Through the diplomacy menu, you will need to befriend them enough for the confederation option to be available. Usually, if the faction is getting beaten by an opponent, they will be more willing to confederate.

[Braderz_12]

Originally posted by HAF DoomsDay:

Through the diplomacy menu, you will need to befriend them enough for the confederation option to be available. Usually, if the faction is getting beaten by an opponent, they will be more willing to confederate.

is 280 friendly not enough ?

[StrangestEcho]

Originally posted by Braderz_12:

Originally posted by HAF DoomsDay:

Through the diplomacy menu, you will need to befriend them enough for the confederation option to be available. Usually, if the faction is getting beaten by an opponent, they will be more willing to confederate.

is 280 friendly not enough ?

There is no benefit after 150. Other factors that help with regular confederations for all factions:

-Military Alliance
-Player is much stronger than AI faction
-AI hasn't expanded recently
-AI is threatened by being in too many wars, or is at war with a much stronger faction
-Their legendary lord is dead.

You can use a military alliance to force them into wars, or trade them low value settlements to drag them into pre-existing ones. The AI values Military and Income buildings quite highly.

If they are almost ready to confederate while military allied you can borrow their armies, and that will reduce their faction strength rating and boost yours.

[abyssalfury]

So, Confederation for most factions is not something that happens 'naturally' from having high relations in the current state of the game. You pretty much have to game the system somehow.

Some factions have mechanics that allow them to skip the normal confederation process, but none of them should do it 'unprovoked'.

[Ashley]

Factions with high to middle balance of power will generally not confederate and a faction is more likely to confederate if they're at risk of dying out and at war with too many factions