Total War: WARHAMMER III

Total War: WARHAMMER III

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Jebe Jul 30, 2024 @ 9:51am
disable large army doesn't prevent enemies from commanding more than 20 units
i don't get it, i thought if you don't control large army the reinforcements only come if one unit gets wiped out or routs from the battle field
in this screenshot you can clearly see more than 20 units that are still figting for the enemy while my reinforcements aren't coming because i disabled it. is this a bug or did something change?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3299840842
Last edited by Jebe; Jul 30, 2024 @ 9:52am
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shoobers Jul 30, 2024 @ 9:57am 
THere's probably 2 enemy factions.
Jebe Jul 30, 2024 @ 10:02am 
it was 2 armies of nuln and wissenburg
Zeek Jul 30, 2024 @ 10:15am 
I hardly use that option, but I *think* it only applies to the player.
KeiranG19 Jul 30, 2024 @ 10:19am 
The option is for "Control large army" toggling it off only changes how many units you the player are controlling.

Your reinforcement armies that come in will be controlled by a friendly computer.

If you want to only fight a single army at a time then you want to use "Lightning strike".
Elitewrecker PT Jul 30, 2024 @ 10:21am 
It limits it to 20 units per faction in the battle.
Garatgh Deloi Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:37am 
Originally posted by Jebe:
it was 2 armies of nuln and wissenburg

Those are two different factions. With large armies ticked off each faction get 20 units, rather then allies getting 20 and enemies getting 20.

Edit: Incorrect.
Last edited by Garatgh Deloi; Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:49am
Jebe Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:42am 
No, no it’s not, its only the faction of Elspeth Von Draken
The faction is called Wissenburg & Nuln
Garatgh Deloi Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:45am 
Originally posted by Jebe:
No, no it’s not, its only the faction of Elspeth Von Draken
The faction is called Wissenburg & Nuln

Ahh nevermind. Used to only be called Wissenland.
KoboldUtopian Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:46am 
Originally posted by KeiranG19:
The option is for "Control large army" toggling it off only changes how many units you the player are controlling.

Your reinforcement armies that come in will be controlled by a friendly computer.

If you want to only fight a single army at a time then you want to use "Lightning strike".

This is incorrect. If you turn off "control large army" you will only have 20 units on the field at a time and your reinforcements won't come in until one of those 20 routs off the battlefield or is wiped out. Same goes for your AI opponent. You can check the "AI control" box next to your reinforcing army and they will come in as a separate faction (and behave like idiots). This also allows your AI opponent to bring in an extra army as a separate faction.

The "control large army" button limits each faction to 20 units. So if you are going up against 2 factions, or you have allies helping you, there will be more than 20 total. "Nuln and Wissenland" is one faction so turning off this option should have limited them.

It seems like you only had the one army so you didn't have the option to turn off large army? Can you share a screenshot of the pre-battle screen showing the armies involved?
Jebe Jul 31, 2024 @ 3:49am 
I did have more armies, and I ticked the button for control large armies off I already continued the campaign and won the battle I just found it weird that they came on the battlefield which more than 20 units
Siodog Jul 31, 2024 @ 5:14am 
Originally posted by Jebe:
I did have more armies, and I ticked the button for control large armies off I already continued the campaign and won the battle I just found it weird that they came on the battlefield which more than 20 units

Unless you modded it, there would never be more than 20 units per army faction if you uncheck the mark. Can you show more info?
Jebe Jul 31, 2024 @ 6:49am 
As I said before I continued the campaign so there is no way to show the actual moment where it happened
I ticked the box for control large army to off and was confused once Elspeths whole army entered the battlefield
My armies not coming onto the battlefield should be more than enough proof that it was disabled
Could it be that i inflicted the army loss penalty to the first army which caused them to not count to „active“ units on the field? You can see a few of them rout I didn’t check if the units that still fought were unbreakable or not
Elitewrecker PT Jul 31, 2024 @ 6:54am 
Until the unit is shattered, i.e. still has the possibility of rallying back, then it should prevent another unit from entering.
You would still have to fight both armies, the only difference is that you wouldn't be 20v40, it'd be 20v20 until all 40 units of them were defeated.
So yes, I guess it's possible that suddenly shattering most of the first army at once would then result in a mass entrance of the remaining units.
Last edited by Elitewrecker PT; Jul 31, 2024 @ 6:57am
Jebe Jul 31, 2024 @ 6:54am 
Mods are there but only minor reskins and additional units, nothing gameplay changing
pascal.difolco Jul 31, 2024 @ 8:28am 
Originally posted by Jebe:
i don't get it, i thought if you don't control large army the reinforcements only come if one unit gets wiped out or routs from the battle field
in this screenshot you can clearly see more than 20 units that are still figting for the enemy while my reinforcements aren't coming because i disabled it. is this a bug or did something change?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3299840842

Is there more than 20 *unrouted* enemy units ?
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Date Posted: Jul 30, 2024 @ 9:51am
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