Total War: WARHAMMER III

Total War: WARHAMMER III

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Deinomache Jul 4, 2024 @ 8:44pm
No Arbaal? some disapointed :(
For Sure Arbaal is better character than the SkullTaker. And Arbaal deserves to be the main LL for this DLC.
maybe CA has good reasons for the Bloodletter. some mechanics about killing LL and getting more power. some destructive offensive way to play.

but I hope Arbaal as a FLL at least.

:WH3_nurgling:
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SBA77 Jul 4, 2024 @ 9:07pm 
Originally posted by Deinomache:
No Arbaal? some disapointed :(
For Sure Arbaal is better character than the SkullTaker. And Arbaal deserves to be the main LL for this DLC.
maybe CA has good reasons for the Bloodletter. some mechanics about killing LL and getting more power. some destructive offensive way to play.
Well I think you said it yourself:
Originally posted by Deinomache:
but I hope Arbaal as a FLL at least.
Just hope he isn't a Total War Access exclusive like all the others have been, if he is the free lord that is.
Last edited by SBA77; Jul 4, 2024 @ 11:20pm
Elitewrecker PT Jul 5, 2024 @ 2:45am 
Yeah it'll probably be a CA account like Epidemius
Defmonkey Jul 5, 2024 @ 5:26am 
Much prefer Skulltaker to be honest, though as others have said above, i really think Arbaal will be the FLC lord.

Skulltaker better fits as a deamon of khorne as a herald, Arbaal is essentially a mortal... A chaos warrior on a Flesh Hound. Though Tzeentch we had a herald lead the DLC and Nurgle we had a mortal (a mutated worm but still mortal) lead the DLC.... i think Tzeentch will get another lord... has to Egrimm van Hortsmannn... cant think of anyone else, but thats essentially a chaos warrior of a dragon. Lol.

That said, Arbaal in the end times spent most of his time in Ind it seems so that is a perfect place to possibly start opening up that part of the map....

I guess doen't matter at end of day if both get released all are happy. Only the Khorne Legendary Hero im not sure of.... Scylla?... Abrax?
jonoliveira12 Jul 5, 2024 @ 9:44am 
Arbaal is a chump that loses to elves TWICE!

Why do you want Arbaal the Easily Defeated?
Velber Jul 5, 2024 @ 6:47pm 
Skulltaker seems cooler imo
and i still want engra deathsword
I can't really imagine what type of DLC level mechanic they could give Arbaal that's thematic to his lore. He's just a dude who is really good at fighting and that's it. An FLC level mechanic similar in quality to Epidemius, Be'lakor, Rakarth, or Imrik is honestly enough.

Then again Skulltaker is in a similar boat. Most of the named Khorne characters are just smash kill tropes so it doesn't surprise me.
SBA77 Jul 5, 2024 @ 9:06pm 
Originally posted by Amphibian Artillery:
Then again Skulltaker is in a similar boat. Most of the named Khorne characters are just smash kill tropes so it doesn't surprise me.
Don't know what his faction mechanics would be, but in the news video they made it pretty obvious what his special lord ability would be; powering himself up by fighting and defeating enemy lords. There are still many unknowns that they haven't revealed like are his challenges going to cause 3K-style duels between him and the target lord, or if he's going to get unique traits when he defeats certain LLs or just stat buffs, but it seems like they've revealed the core of his mechanics to us already.
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steelmidnight Jul 9, 2024 @ 12:23pm 
Arbaal is thematic. He is the best of the Mortal representatives for Khorne, because there is alot of history and nostalgia behind him. He has managed to maintain cult status for nearly 30 years.

Sure, they have done better designs since his creation way back in the 90s. But for some, we remember when he came out and was a big deal. His model hasnt aged well (Heres hoping CA update him-he needs it!) but when he released, he was probably the coolest Chaos character that people had seen, and stayed this way for a few years. And so people got attached to him. I know I did, and have been looking forward to his inclusion since the first game launched in 2016 for these reasons.

And I despise when people say "Hes just a Khorne Lord on a Unique Mount". Thats such a dumb argument. What do you think Rakarth, Teclis, Tyrion, Hellebron, Todbringer, Karl, and host of other character are? Just a fancier version of their factions Lords. Same as Arbaal.

And I thought his fall by the hands of the Incarnate was pretty cool. Must of been, since Game of Thrones seems to have totally "borrowed" the clash for the mountain and the viper, with Arbaal taunting the incarnate on the ground thinking he was done, and getting surprised. If the extreme similarities ARE coinicidence, it goes to show talented writers think alike, since I didnt really like the End times but thought that, at least, was a cool way for him to finally fall.

Arbaal IS the pure heavy-metal style artistic image of Khorne. Some of the fan art for this guy is just astonishing, such as the painting by David Sonders, or the new red-armored image that goes around alot these days (can't find the artists name) And the very fact that Arbaal has dedicated fan-artists painting images of him, something you can't say about nearly any other Khorne Character, should answer the question as to why he is an important addition for Khorne fans!

And consider-

Valkia - WoC
Skarbrand= Anti-Large LL
Skulltaker= Daemon infantry/Cav builds
Arbaal= Mortal infantry/Cav Builds (Unless they make his Flesh Hound permenantly mounted like they did with that skink-whats-his-name). In that case we would need one more (Skar Bloodwrath) in the future.

I am as much of a Chaos fan as it gets, especially Khorne. I only rarely play a few others (Dark Elves, Beastmen, Vamps) and that line up above would be more than enough to make me content if they never added anything else for Khorne again. As long as we got those (Skar is optional) I would be more than happy. Then they could move on to other armies and make others happy as well!
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Reaver79 Jul 9, 2024 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by Defmonkey:
Skulltaker better fits as a deamon of khorne as a herald, Arbaal is essentially a mortal...
He led a Daemon army at was it Praag tho.. He's from a time before the armies being split..
steelmidnight Jul 9, 2024 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by Reaver79:
Originally posted by Defmonkey:
Skulltaker better fits as a deamon of khorne as a herald, Arbaal is essentially a mortal...
He led a Daemon army at was it Praag tho.. He's from a time before the armies being split..

Yeah, he led many daemon armies come to think of it. He was in charge of the battle that brought the walls of Praag down. And you can't really take his losses seriously because those were done when GW had the "bright idea" to let fans tell the story. (What a disaster that was) of the Old World just before they realized how dumb it was to let fans decide the outcome of the lore, and did Storm of Chaos instead.

Chaos was 2nd only to the Empire in popularity back then. I used to go to these massive grand tournies they would hold in big venues such as the ones in the West Palm Beach Fla Auditorium. Man those were fun!

Then GW decided to split off the beastmen, which was well recieved, because it kind of fit their lore, and they were great as their own thing (Though Chaos players for a while could still take them in a limited fashion with Hordes of Chaos). But what do companies do when something does well?

Sadly they do it again.

Splitting daemons from Warriors did NOT go over well. Alot of people actually quit playing because of that decision. Half their armies were suddenly invalid, and these little buggers werent cheap. Effectively forcing people who had painstakingly collected and completed armies to have to go buy more if they wanted to keep going. It didnt bother newer players so much, of course, because they werent aware of how good they once were. Andy Chambers, one of the original creators of the faction, even said after leaving them, "I don't understand what they were thinking, knowing full well that daemons were created to compliment warriors and vice versa."

Warriors were still "Okay" thanks to stull like Shaggoths and other beasts, but Chaos was never the same after the split and felt incomplete and lame.

I am SO glad CA had the wisdom to bring them back together as mono factions!
Defmonkey Jul 9, 2024 @ 8:13pm 
Originally posted by Reaver79:
Originally posted by Defmonkey:
Skulltaker better fits as a deamon of khorne as a herald, Arbaal is essentially a mortal...
He led a Daemon army at was it Praag tho.. He's from a time before the armies being split..

Yes this is correct, and is part the reason why i prefer Skulltaker and using the heralds as the faction leads for the monogod DLC.

Unfortunately CA has got a bit muddled up with the Warriors of Chaos, Deamons of Chaos and the Monogod factions.... personally i dont like how some characters have been aligned and the way the armies have been divided up. Is what it is though.

Had they just gone Monogod and Undivided then i would of been more aligned with the idea.

I dont think will be a problem though, i'm reasonably sure Arbaal will be the FLC for Khorne so most people will be happy either way.
jonoliveira12 Jul 10, 2024 @ 5:49am 
Arbaal is a weakling that ran away from fighting elves. Give us the Mardaag instead!

Urlfdaemonkin, Grydal "Scourge of the South" and Skarr Bloodwrath are much more deserving of LL status than Arbaal the Easily Defeated.

Arbaal is just Khorne's Mary Sue, he should have been turned into a Chaos Spawn when he fled combat, as per the rules of becoming the "Destroyer of Khorne", but instead he is uncharacteristically forgiven.

Arbaal is a weakling!
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