Why is Tamurkhan Nurgle and not WoC?

[The Alchemist]

Why is Azezal WoC and not Slaneesh?

Why did CA royal ♥♥♥♥ up Chaos and thematic identity

Wtf is a WoC vs their respective monogod???

[Enelith]

Because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(What kind of answer are u seriously expecting from forum users ?....)

[OpalGotMyHeart]

because there is a difference between humans who have been chosen and those who have transcended to demonkind.
The warriors of chaos for all their power, are still mortal, their existence to some extent is still tied to the mortal realm, the various demon factions are not, they exist as part of their planes of chaos, and are not bound to the mortal world.

[Enelith]

Although, tbh, this definition is debatable considering Valkya and Azazel nature (Valkya lorewise being so much older and remade by Khorne ; Azazel starting the game with the daemon trait already...)

Regardless, don't care, new content coming, rejoice.

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by NikiGotUrSpine:

because there is a difference between humans who have been chosen and those who have transcended to demonkind.
The warriors of chaos for all their power, are still mortal, their existence to some extent is still tied to the mortal realm, the various demon factions are not, they exist as part of their planes of chaos, and are not bound to the mortal world.

That is the issue.
- Tamurkhan is a mortal being (the worm is not a daemon), so by that logic it should have been WoC.
- While Azezal is undeniably a daemon prince, thus a daemon (Its not like Valkia where some sources say mortal mutant while others say daemon prince(ess)).

So we have mortals being added to the god race/armies while we have daemons in the WoC race/armies. There is no consistency or theme around it.

[Da_Higg]

My understanding is that it is to avoid overlap of roles. Eg. N'kari is a fast, fragile, melee spell caster. Azezal is a fast, fragile, melee spell caster. So if they are in the same faction and both do the same thing it loses variety. by putting one in Slanesh and one in WoC they don't overlap.

Tamukhan is a big pure melee smasher. Kholek is a big pure melee smasher so they overlap - solution tamukhan is added to Nurgle since the current Nurgle lord is a primary spell caster

[CrUsHeR]

WoC doesn't mean "Worms of Chaos" though

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

WoC doesn't mean "Worms of Chaos" though

No but the worm can be argued to be a warrior, can it not? Its not like it says "humans of chaos" either.

P.S That said you made me chuckle, have a award.

[CrUsHeR]

Warrior implies a certain profession among human(oids)

The "warrior ant" for example is a metaphor

[Solvem Probler]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

Originally posted by NikiGotUrSpine:

because there is a difference between humans who have been chosen and those who have transcended to demonkind.
The warriors of chaos for all their power, are still mortal, their existence to some extent is still tied to the mortal realm, the various demon factions are not, they exist as part of their planes of chaos, and are not bound to the mortal world.

That is the issue.
- Tamurkhan is a mortal being (the worm is not a daemon), so by that logic it should have been WoC.
- While Azezal is undeniably a daemon prince, thus a daemon (Its not like Valkia where some sources say mortal mutant while others say daemon prince(ess)).

Valkia started out mortal and ascended to daemonhood, as did Azazel. The maggot that is Tamurkhan might be anything, it's unclear. The campaign book itself states it is unknown what Tamurkhan really is.

[Coldhands]

Are Warriors and Deamons two separate factions in the tabletop game? How do they divide them and their characters up there?

[Funky Monk]

Because CoC was made before ToD?

[Solvem Probler]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Are Warriors and Deamons two separate factions in the tabletop game? How do they divide them and their characters up there?

Chaos used to be everything from Beastmen to Daemons but they split them up early into parts. Daemons are their own faction in TT, although that has caused plenty of problems.

[Ashardalon]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Are Warriors and Deamons two separate factions in the tabletop game? How do they divide them and their characters up there?

depends on the edition
usually it was all one faction with buffs for using only a subcategory of the one big faction and restrictions for using one of the legendary lords
but things have changed in the decades of game

[Zeek]

Originally posted by Swampo:

Why is Azezal WoC and not Slaneesh?

Why did CA royal ♥♥♥♥ up Chaos and thematic identity

Wtf is a WoC vs their respective monogod???

Because Chaos has been an unruly mess for decades. You might even say it's...chaotic.

But seriously, it's a combination of many things.
* Keeping the identity of Warriors of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos
* Implementing proper mono-god factions that never existed in fantasy.
* Trying to avoid as much over lap as possible (ex: Kugath and Festus basically do the same thing).
* The boundaries between mortals and daemonic is very blurry at times.
* Balancing these things together.

[GeoG85]

Tamurkah is reallllly nasty lorewise.

But anyway. Mortals tend to be WoC.

And full Demons tend to be their associated faction.

And Tamurkah ain't an ogre - he's a parasite that possessed the corpse of an ogre.

Yum.