Local province question.

[Sollet]

So in WH2 we had provinces and regions, fairly easy to understand, but in WH3 I started seeing (local province). Does this refer to the region? Playing as chorfs I can build the tools manufactory that increases raw material output by 30% in local province, I would assume this means the entire province otherwise this building makes 0 sense.

[Immortalis]

Local provinces means the entire province where the building is located; it's opposed to adjacent provinces and all provinces

[AurumHawke]

Local Province is the Regions in the Province owned by the owner of the Region the effect's Source is located.
So a contested Province is technically two or more separate Local Provinces.

[Human bean]

İlk olarak AurumHawke tarafından gönderildi:

Local Province is the Regions in the Province owned by the owner of the Region the effect's Source is located.
So a contested Province is technically two or more separate Local Provinces.

What? No. It means IN the THIS special province. Meaning The province the town/city is in

[AurumHawke]

İlk olarak Human bean tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak AurumHawke tarafından gönderildi:

Local Province is the Regions in the Province owned by the owner of the Region the effect's Source is located.
So a contested Province is technically two or more separate Local Provinces.

What? No. It means IN the THIS special province. Meaning The province the town/city is in

That's what "Regions in the Province... the effect's Source is located" means.
The Building (in the town/city) is the Source and it's located in the Region, and that Region is in the (Local) Province.

I just say it in a way that accounts for contested provinces.

Here's what it looks like in-game:
Southern Sylvania (Contested Province) includes Castle Drakenhof (Region owned by Vlad), Eschen (Region owned by Drycha). Vlad is sitting in Eschen.
Moving a Blight of Terrors lord (-5 Enemy Leadership Local Province) between Eschen and Castle Drakenhof changes Vlad's army's Leadership.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3244637330
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3244637364

[Sollet]

İlk olarak AurumHawke tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Human bean tarafından gönderildi:

What? No. It means IN the THIS special province. Meaning The province the town/city is in

That's what "Regions in the Province... the effect's Source is located" means.
The Building (in the town/city) is the Source and it's located in the Region, and that Region is in the (Local) Province.

I just say it in a way that accounts for contested provinces.

Here's what it looks like in-game:
Southern Sylvania (Contested Province) includes Castle Drakenhof (Region owned by Vlad), Eschen (Region owned by Drycha). Vlad is sitting in Eschen.
Moving a Blight of Terrors lord (-5 Enemy Leadership Local Province) between Eschen and Castle Drakenhof changes Vlad's army's Leadership.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3244637330
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3244637364

So all in all they just renamed region to local province as i feared?

[Immortalis]

İlk olarak Sollet tarafından gönderildi:

So all in all they just renamed region to local province as i feared?

Not at all.
The example brought by AurumHawke simply means they forgot to update a tooltip and the effect should apply to enemy armies in the local region.

Regions are the area controlled by the settlements; provinces are all the settlements in that particular group (which could range from a single settlement to four) and all the area they control.

In the example above, vampire corruption is a province wide effect that applies to the territory in the Eschen and the Drakenhof regions both at the same time.

[Jerroser]

Pretty sure the term local province was used in WH1 and 2 as well. Its basically used in any bonus' or effects that apply to all regions within the same province. Meaning the affect only applies to the province its coming from and does not spread to any of the surrounding provinces. Nothing about the terminology for regions and provinces was changed.

[Sollet]

İlk olarak Jerroser tarafından gönderildi:

Pretty sure the term local province was used in WH1 and 2 as well. Its basically used in any bonus' or effects that apply to all regions within the same province. Meaning the affect only applies to the province its coming from and does not spread to any of the surrounding provinces. Nothing about the terminology for regions and provinces was changed.

I don't remember seeing it in WH2. An effect would say either province, region or adjacent regions/provinces.

[Immortalis]

İlk olarak Sollet tarafından gönderildi:

I don't remember seeing it in WH2. An effect would say either province, region or adjacent regions/provinces.

Province and local province are exactly the same thing, it's just an issue of the tooltips not being perfectly aligned (some even states "provincewide"); nothing changes mechanically.
Adjacent provinces means a province wide effect applying to adjacent provinces.

Region means the single settlement and the land it controls; local region is exactly the same.
Adjacent regions means all the regions in contact with the land controlled by the local settlement.

Game 3 works exactly the same way as game 1 and 2 did in regard to the distinction between regions and provinces and how local/adjacent effects are handled

[SamsTheMan]

the province is the dad with his arms out and the regions are his kids that he is hugging

[AurumHawke]

İlk olarak Immortalis tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Sollet tarafından gönderildi:

So all in all they just renamed region to local province as i feared?

Not at all.
The example brought by AurumHawke simply means they forgot to update a tooltip and the effect should apply to enemy armies in the local region.

Regions are the area controlled by the settlements; provinces are all the settlements in that particular group (which could range from a single settlement to four) and all the area they control.

In the example above, vampire corruption is a province wide effect that applies to the territory in the Eschen and the Drakenhof regions both at the same time.

5.0 updated Local Province scope to mean the whole province.
The exception case of a contested province, as shown in the screenshots, no longer exists.

Blight of Terrors leadership penalty, for the example, was and still is:

character_to_force_enemy_provincewide	\n(enemy armies in local province)	character	force	enemy	provincewide	any

provincewide no longer implicitly checks who owns which region.