Why would anyone choose any of the Chaos factions over the WOC?

[TomOfFinland]

Aside from faction mechanics, why do you choose a specific chaos faction over the warriors of chaos?

I've started a campaign as Khorne and Nurgle and their rosters feel so small compared to some of the other factions. Compare that to warriors of chaos and it is minimal.
Help me change my mind why these factions are better than Warriors of chaos.

Edit: I forgot to add that the latest expansion I got is the chosen of chaos. I realize that chaos factions have received a lot of new units since.

[CrUsHeR]

Origineel geplaatst door Reaver79:

Origineel geplaatst door CrUsHeR:

Chaos has the same mortal lords and heroes as WoC. Two lords and two heroes.
But they also get the daemonic Herald, plus the daemonic hero, plus the Cultist.

Ill spell it out for you since you cant add 2+2 Legendary lord options, different factions.. It aint that hard is it ?..

WoC has even less there: One for each god, plus Belakor.

Tzeentch has two, Nurgle three, Khorne and Slaanesh likely get one more in the next DLCs.
WoC won't get more in the foreseeable future.

Archaeon, Kholek, Sigvald are the legacy lords from WH1 with no actual aim or dedication.

[Farsha]

Origineel geplaatst door CrUsHeR:

WoC has even less there: One for each god, plus Belakor.

Tzeentch has two, Nurgle three, Khorne and Slaanesh likely get one more in the next DLCs.
WoC won't get more in the foreseeable future.

Archaeon, Kholek, Sigvald are the legacy lords from WH1 with no actual aim or dedication.

Well the undivided WoC and Belakor are the most customizable experience in the whole game.
Their roster is kinda insane and you can choose what you want.

Archeon is really overpowered.

Kholek scales in strenght with vassals, which can also completely break the game in a fun way. (Had him on 220 armor, 1,2k weapon str and 12000 mass). Now with nurgle sorc hero you can heal him, so nothing can stop him.

Both Deamons and WoC are fun in their owm way and very strong in players hands.

[CrUsHeR]

Undivided WoC does literally nothing properly.

[Farsha]

Origineel geplaatst door CrUsHeR:

Undivided WoC does literally nothing properly.

What does that even mean?

You don’t need to do things properly or optimally in a single player campaign just have fun with the big roster.
You can devout each of your armies to different god or cherry pick your favorite units from each.
Just have fun with it.

But proper for undivided WoC is aspiring champions doomstack. They get every buff from the undivided research tree you can think off.

[CrUsHeR]

Kholek and Sigvald can't upgrade the T2 daemons to exalted versions. Especially with Sigvald, this is a big question mark.

They have access to all four god research branches, but do nothing of it properly. Nothing compared to how good e.g. Vilitch or Festus are.

They have access to all gifts, but only one slot for each god. Compared to the 4 slots the CoC lords have.

Especially with Sigvald this is so weird, example researching Khorne stuff reduces your Slaanesh authority for all armies. It feels outright broken.

As someone else said in a different thread, Sigvald should swap his faction with Azazael, who should become a Slaanesh Chaos faction instead.

And for Belakor himself, i could write a whole page about things which are contraproductive and simply hindering gameplay. Belakor probably should lead the Daemons of Chaos instead (a reworked version though).

[Farsha]

Why are you trying to play WoC like a deamon faction? They are ment to use mostly mortal armies and then they work perfectly fine.

[TomOfFinland]

Origineel geplaatst door FizzMan:

You there TomOfFinland?

How often do we see this on the forums?

Someone whines and complains about something they don't understand, everyone spends precious time explaining the reality of the situation to them and they never respond...

I did not whine or complain. I asked a simple question.

I've read the comments but have nothing to say to them. Therefore why should I say something. What would you want me to say?

[Human bean]

Since the Random button chooses who I play as I dont see the problem? Make do

[Avallac]

Use Radious overhaul and you won't have too few units, Radious adds hundreds total so monogod factions are pretty fun to play and don't feel lacking in rosters.

[TcT Goth98]

Origineel geplaatst door Avallac:

Use Radious overhaul and you won't have too few units, Radious adds hundreds total so monogod factions are pretty fun to play and don't feel lacking in rosters.

Radious sucks though.

[Jeemoo11]

Because Skarbrand is the best LL

[Adamsevs]

Origineel geplaatst door Gonna Cry?:

Because Warriors of Chaos is so boring you won the game at the start screen from turn 1, you will seek challenge...because Warriors of Chaos are so overpowered they are impossible to lose with unless intentionally trying.

In this case scenario i suppose the way to make it fun is to be the most reckless possible, being at war with all factions met, always getting your income red, avoiding recruiting aspiring champions, using mods that make the ai more aggressive with recruiting/income buff and you'll earn your time with them for sure

[Kaschperle]

I also prefer the chaos faction mechanci with boons and upgrading your units... I dont understand why it isn't the case for normal monogod factions. If I play the fatty with potions I will be nurgle aligned 100% either way but when I play plaguefather I lose the ability to turn marauders into chosen ones. Just this minor thing makes it so more enjoyable to play.

[TcT Goth98]

Origineel geplaatst door Gonna Cry?:

Because Warriors of Chaos is so boring you won the game at the start screen from turn 1, you will seek challenge...because Warriors of Chaos are so overpowered they are impossible to lose with unless intentionally trying.

Wrong. Warhammer2 WoC was super boring. It's actually fun now.

[Kaschperle]

Origineel geplaatst door Avallac:

Use Radious overhaul and you won't have too few units, Radious adds hundreds total so monogod factions are pretty fun to play and don't feel lacking in rosters.

radious is just a bloated mess tbh in all total wars experience it is just not a clean mod it has neat takes but already without submods having 23402043 armies takes the fun out of it.

The only good thing about radious in Three Kingdomes was prolonged warfare cause of the general buffed unit state compared to vanilla.