Total War: WARHAMMER III

Total War: WARHAMMER III

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TomOfFinland May 9, 2024 @ 11:25pm
Why would anyone choose any of the Chaos factions over the WOC?
Aside from faction mechanics, why do you choose a specific chaos faction over the warriors of chaos?

I've started a campaign as Khorne and Nurgle and their rosters feel so small compared to some of the other factions. Compare that to warriors of chaos and it is minimal.
Help me change my mind why these factions are better than Warriors of chaos.

Edit: I forgot to add that the latest expansion I got is the chosen of chaos. I realize that chaos factions have received a lot of new units since.
Last edited by TomOfFinland; May 9, 2024 @ 11:34pm
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Cyiel May 10, 2024 @ 2:45am 
Also, none of the WoC have access to upgrades for big SEM demons so no bound spells for Keepers of Secrets, Lords of Change and Great Unclean Ones making them faaaar less impressive and no buff for Bloodthirster (not a big problem for them).
Garatgh Deloi May 10, 2024 @ 3:08am 
Originally posted by TomOfFinland:
Aside from faction mechanics, why do you choose a specific chaos faction over the warriors of chaos?

The faction/race mechanics are a big part of it, so not sure why you would ignore those.

-But we have large differences in the tech trees.
-Differences in lord buff skills (for the Daemonic lords).
-The fact that WoC (with the exception of Be'lakor) can only have 6 gifted units in a army, and i sometimes want full daemon armies, also plays a role.
-Also Kairos is a way better spellcaster lord then Vilitch.
Last edited by Garatgh Deloi; May 10, 2024 @ 3:10am
Reaver79 May 10, 2024 @ 4:17am 
Because we like a more challeging faction ?
Only problem with the Mono factions is that they are too limted in lord choices, and the ones they have are super boring..
Zeek May 10, 2024 @ 4:30am 
Cause mono-god theming is awesome
CrUsHeR May 10, 2024 @ 5:26am 
Originally posted by Reaver79:
Because we like a more challeging faction ?
Only problem with the Mono factions is that they are too limted in lord choices, and the ones they have are super boring..

Sorry what?

Chaos has the same mortal lords and heroes as WoC. Two lords and two heroes.
But they also get the daemonic Herald, plus the daemonic hero, plus the Cultist.

Additionally, the Heralds can ascend into the respective Exalted greater daemons, which is usually just the straight up better alternative to the Daemon Princes.

For the non-Khorne factions, you have two different Exalted lords based on their magic lore, so basically even one more lord extra.



Also needs to be said that the daemonic lords and heroes generally have much better traits and skills, in particular the free Blue Horror summons. The Tzeentch guys also get their Disc mount at level 6 already.

Only reason to consider a melee Lord as army leader - having him go red line skills and doing some melee is more efficient overall. Assuming you can afford to bring two heroes for the caster work.

But these two should definitely be daemons. Mortal casters can go steal tech.
Last edited by CrUsHeR; May 10, 2024 @ 5:35am
A.Pot May 10, 2024 @ 5:58am 
Because its cool to follow the themes. Also that you have groups like Chaos Dwarfs or Beastmen with very different rosters vs what is going on with Warriors of Chaos.
hsf_ May 10, 2024 @ 5:58am 
Chaos(Khorne) is my favourite faction lore wise, but I found them very boring to play to be honest.
Adamsevs May 10, 2024 @ 6:43am 
CrUsHeR said it all.

I'll just adds that WoC is like " a warband expedition " with a few holds, allowing unique combination like using the lore of nurgle to heal bloodthirsters, while monogod is a map painting and conquering using different main mechanic and with all their improved roster.

I like more playing Nurgle than WoC even from before 5.0
Aas May 10, 2024 @ 8:21am 
I don't like the ascension system of warriors of chaos.

I don't want to start with random, weak units and work them up.

I want to have recruitment buildings for all my units, I want to be able to recruit elite units and better control over what units make up my army right from the recruitment screen.

I am interested in the complete flavour and mechanics of one homogenous chaos god with all it's strength and weaknesses. I am not interested in a hodgepodge of different chaos alignments with no clear direction.

I am interested in mortals and deamons alike and warriors of chaos limits my ability to recruit deamons while chaos warriors (the unit) come in different colors but feel the same.

As far as I am aware there are no heralds, greater deamon lords, deamonic heroes or cultists available to warriors of chaos.
Last edited by Aas; May 10, 2024 @ 8:33am
Don't like not having proper settlements, can't paint the map with vassals
KTVindicare May 10, 2024 @ 9:10am 
For added challenge and flavor.
DarkFenix May 10, 2024 @ 9:23am 
Easier access and better buffs to daemonic units. Simple as.
Reaver79 May 10, 2024 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:
Chaos has the same mortal lords and heroes as WoC. Two lords and two heroes.
But they also get the daemonic Herald, plus the daemonic hero, plus the Cultist.
Ill spell it out for you since you cant add 2+2 Legendary lord options, different factions.. It aint that hard is it ?..
FizzMan May 10, 2024 @ 6:51pm 
Originally posted by large idiot:
Don't like not having proper settlements, can't paint the map with vassals
Then don't play them XD Problem solved.
FizzMan May 10, 2024 @ 6:52pm 
You there TomOfFinland?

How often do we see this on the forums?

Someone whines and complains about something they don't understand, everyone spends precious time explaining the reality of the situation to them and they never respond...
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