Gold Guy Wizard?

[LordXBlue]

MOVE GOLD BOY BACK TO HIS ORIGINAL LOCATION! Also why does goth girl wizard have half of what Gelt should have in the artillery customization I thought his whole sthick first was magic+gunpowder=kool? I don't care about DLC prices but let me suck up her artillery powers & starting location like Cell sucks up Android 18 from Dragon Ball Z plz I will pay for it thank you.

[Garatgh Deloi]

They both have some claim at being artillery/gunpowder lords. Goth chick because of her being from Nuln (basically the empires key site for stuff or that nature) and golden boy (Gelt) for being a metal wizard (the magic seeming to be connected to alchemy).

But out of the two goth chick has the stronger claim. Golden boy being more the head or the wizards in the empire.

They moved gelt because too many legendary lord in the empire wouldn't be good, but if you play as Gelt you get a dilemma early on allowing you to move back.

[Amphibian Artillery]

You get the option to teleport back to the Empire as Gelt after you deal with your starting enemy (around turn 8-10 you should have destroyed them). Now they've changed Gelt to focus mainly on magic and not gunpowder. It seems Elspeth is now the gunpowder lord and Gelt is the magic lord. Nothing to do about that

[ope84]

Does the Markus and Volkmar get the same dilemma?

[LordXBlue]

Originally posted by Amphibian Artillery:

You get the option to teleport back to the Empire as Gelt after you deal with your starting enemy (around turn 8-10 you should have destroyed them). Now they've changed Gelt to focus mainly on magic and not gunpowder. It seems Elspeth is now the gunpowder lord and Gelt is the magic lord. Nothing to do about that

What do you specifically mean by teleporting back?

[Amphibian Artillery]

Originally posted by ope84:

Does the Markus and Volkmar get the same dilemma?

Nope just Gelt

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by BlueXCheese:

What do you specifically mean by teleporting back?

Somewhat early on you get a dilemma allowing you to abandon the whole expedition to Cathay and teleport back.

[Amphibian Artillery]

Originally posted by BlueXCheese:

What do you specifically mean by teleporting back?

All the territory you get in Cathay gets given to Zhao and all your armies get teleported to Altdorf. You get massive campaign buffs for 10 turns (I believe one of them is zero upkeep on all armies) and in those 10 turns you have to get some settlements in the empire(Marienburg would be the best)

[LordXBlue]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

They both have some claim at being artillery/gunpowder lords. Goth chick because of her being from Nuln (basically the empires key site for stuff or that nature) and golden boy (Gelt) for being a metal wizard (the magic seeming to be connected to alchemy).

But out of the two goth chick has the stronger claim. Golden boy being more the head or the wizards in the empire.

They moved gelt because too many legendary lord in the empire wouldn't be good, but if you play as Gelt you get a dilemma early on allowing you to move back.

Why would it matter moving him in the first place if you can literally move him back in a few turns? Also I don't care about it from a lore claim, I care about it from a gameplay perspective. She gets half of what Gelt should have had in the first place.

[LordXBlue]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

Originally posted by BlueXCheese:

What do you specifically mean by teleporting back?

Somewhat early on you get a dilemma allowing you to abandon the whole expedition to Cathay and teleport back.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Coldhands]

Nay. Gelt being more about Magic than gunpowder makes sense; he's the Supreme Patriarch of the Imperial Colleges of Magic. And Elspeth is based in Nuln, which is Gun City, so it makes sense she'd get access to the Gunnery School. And it's nice to spread the factions out a bit for the sake of variety. If Gelt and Elspeth were both gunpowder focused, and both started right next to each other in the south of the Empire ... why even have both of them?
You can always teleport Gelt back to the Empire and set up shop pretty much wherever there a little ways into his campaign.

Plus, Gelt can get the Armageddon Spell now. Which are sick.

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by BlueXCheese:

Why would it matter moving him in the first place if you can literally move him back in a few turns? Also I don't care about it from a lore claim, I care about it from a gameplay perspective. She gets half of what Gelt should have had in the first place.

In case you aren't playing him or make that choice? It still means less empire lords in a small area in the vast majority of cases.

[Coldhands]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

Originally posted by BlueXCheese:

Why would it matter moving him in the first place if you can literally move him back in a few turns? Also I don't care about it from a lore claim, I care about it from a gameplay perspective. She gets half of what Gelt should have had in the first place.

In case you aren't playing him or make that choice? It still means less empire lords in a small area in the vast majority of cases.

No it doesn't. Elspeth is in the Empire now, so if you aren't playing as Gelt, there's the same number of lords there as before.

[LordXBlue]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Nay. Gelt being more about Magic than gunpowder makes sense; he's the Supreme Patriarch of the Imperial Colleges of Magic. And Elspeth is based in Nuln, which is Gun City, so it makes sense she'd get access to the Gunnery School. And it's nice to spread the factions out a bit for the sake of variety. If Gelt and Elspeth were both gunpowder focused, and both started right next to each other in the south of the Empire ... why even have both of them?

Plus, Gelt can get the Armageddon Spell now. Which are sick.

His face was blown off from messing around with gunpowder. His spells "Lore Of Metal" are centered around metal? Gunpowder+metal=artillery. He was in the game first, I want the artillery for him. Not some random chick who doesn't look cool and looks more like a necromancer. Tell you what, give the magic school to her and give Gelt what was rightfully his in artillery cool?

[Puggly the Grey]

I kind of like dat deh moved Gelt, but I wish CA would give us Hotseat mode so I can play Gelt, Elspeth, Karl, and Volkmar all at once.

Deh all look so fun dat ders no way fir meh to pick one to play.

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

In case you aren't playing him or make that choice? It still means less empire lords in a small area in the vast majority of cases.

No it doesn't. Elspeth is in the Empire now, so if you aren't playing as Gelt, there's the same number of lords there as before.

Less then what it would have been if golden boy stayed as well. Note that goth chick is lore wise based on Nuln. Gelt being in the southern empire like he was is just something made up to move him away from Karl's start.