Age of Reckoning is broken aparently :(

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ewXLRe3vJw&t=406s

Sadge I was really looking forward to dwarf campaigns being really powerful.

EDIT: Apparently CA is aware

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Cp-f0OEX0

I guess you just have to be careful about actually confederating and any action that increases your vision on the map (Even declaring war on distance factions.

[KoboldUtopian]

Originally posted by SarmatII:

Originally posted by Kharnath:

they scale on the number of grudges you can get. discovering factions also gives you new grudges, so them increasing is expected.
ca should probably tweak the numbers a bit but it's not as bad as some people make it out to be.

Can get? How can you get those grudges on other side of the world, with your 1 army?

It's a silly system. Grudges you "can get" should not be everything out there, it should be based on what you actually can get with what you have.

Doing quest battle, get punished. Have treaties, get punished. It's stupid.

If dwarfs know a faction their population will start accruing grudges. Makes sense.

The game shouldn't scale to what you can easily accomplish any more than the ai should limit itself to the same number of armies as you.

It's not a punishment. It's forcing you to make a strategic choice about how you expand. I think it's a good thing.

[Mazisky]

Originally posted by Googley Eye'd Bastard:

Originally posted by Celery:

It's typical youtube drama farming.

Drama farming? Its pointing out a legit issue with the new update.

It is clear that having this problem exposed would help CA addressing it, I really don't get why some fans are so opposed to anyone who report game issues.

[Kharnath]

Originally posted by SarmatII:

Originally posted by Kharnath:

they scale on the number of grudges you can get. discovering factions also gives you new grudges, so them increasing is expected.
ca should probably tweak the numbers a bit but it's not as bad as some people make it out to be.

Can get? How can you get those grudges on other side of the world, with your 1 army?

It's a silly system. Grudges you "can get" should not be everything out there, it should be based on what you actually can get with what you have.

Doing quest battle, get punished. Have treaties, get punished. It's stupid.

what are you talking about? dwarfs have grudges against pretty much everyone. of course you're total achievable grudges are going to grow if you see a new elf faction, they're bleedin elves.

it's not a silly system. the better bonuses require you to settle more grudges, new factions give you new grudges (as in you are able to settle those grudges). it's completely expected behavior. you seem to be under the misapprehension that it's a punishment. it's not. you don't get punished you just don't get as big as a reward. you do not need to get the highest possible reckoning every single turn.

[Flickmann]

Originally posted by Mazisky:

Originally posted by Googley Eye'd Bastard:

Drama farming? Its pointing out a legit issue with the new update.

It is clear that having this problem exposed would help CA addressing it, I really don't get why some fans are so opposed to anyone who report game issues.

Some people feel a deep primal urge to defend multi-million corporations. It's truly bizarre behavior.

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

Originally posted by Kharnath:

Originally posted by SarmatII:

Can get? How can you get those grudges on other side of the world, with your 1 army?

It's a silly system. Grudges you "can get" should not be everything out there, it should be based on what you actually can get with what you have.

Doing quest battle, get punished. Have treaties, get punished. It's stupid.

what are you talking about? dwarfs have grudges against pretty much everyone. of course you're total achievable grudges are going to grow if you see a new elf faction, they're bleedin elves.

it's not a silly system. the better bonuses require you to settle more grudges, new factions give you new grudges (as in you are able to settle those grudges). it's completely expected behavior. you seem to be under the misapprehension that it's a punishment. it's not. you don't get punished you just don't get as big as a reward. you do not need to get the highest possible reckoning every single turn.

The issue he's talking about are that every time you discover a faction grudges also become visible and that increases the grudges required for your AoR just by knowing they exist.

In the video he shows Grombrindal doing his quest battle and the grudge requirement before and after, it shot up from 3300 to 7700 or something like that just because he did a quest teleport and found grudges in the empire.

This makes declaring war on distant factions, confederating, or doing quest battles via teleportation punish you by increasing your grudge requirements drastically.

I think the system itself is great but it does need a bit of tweaking.

[Celery]

Originally posted by Flickmann:

Originally posted by Mazisky:

It is clear that having this problem exposed would help CA addressing it, I really don't get why some fans are so opposed to anyone who report game issues.

Some people feel a deep primal urge to defend multi-million corporations. It's truly bizarre behavior.

I'm not defending CA. Try reading the thread and you'll look a little less dumb.

[Kharnath]

Originally posted by Googley Eye'd Bastard:

Originally posted by Kharnath:

what are you talking about? dwarfs have grudges against pretty much everyone. of course you're total achievable grudges are going to grow if you see a new elf faction, they're bleedin elves.

it's not a silly system. the better bonuses require you to settle more grudges, new factions give you new grudges (as in you are able to settle those grudges). it's completely expected behavior. you seem to be under the misapprehension that it's a punishment. it's not. you don't get punished you just don't get as big as a reward. you do not need to get the highest possible reckoning every single turn.

The issue he's talking about are that every time you discover a faction grudges also become visible and that increases the grudges required for your AoR just by knowing they exist.

In the video he shows Grombrindal doing his quest battle and the grudge requirement before and after, it shot up from 3300 to 7700 or something like that just because he did a quest teleport and found grudges in the empire.

This makes declaring war on distant factions, confederating, or doing quest battles via teleportation punish you by increasing your grudge requirements drastically.

I think the system itself is great but it does need a bit of tweaking.

like i said they probably should tweak the numbers a bit. but again, it's not a punishment. you meet new faction you get more grudges. does that mean you cannot get the maximum reckoning? yeah probably, and? that's not a punishment it just means you have to do more for the maximum reward. from what i have seen from the livestreams it doesn't seem as apocalyptic as some people are making it out to be

how about we all just wait and actually play with the system before we go and force ca to do something actually stupid we're all going to regret?

[Chozer]

It is not broken and this video explains why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlG_4bcb00o

[Flickmann]

Originally posted by Celery:

Originally posted by Flickmann:

Some people feel a deep primal urge to defend multi-million corporations. It's truly bizarre behavior.

I'm not defending CA. Try reading the thread and you'll look a little less dumb.

What makes you think I was talking about you specifically? This may surprise you, but you aren't the main character here.

[Testikles]

Does it matter though? The debuffs from ignoring it are laughable, and the free units won't matter much after the early game. It looks like yet another mechanic which you can safely forget about while playing.

This is the actual tragedy here, the rest is just some numbers.

[Lain]

Of course the new content is gonna be buggy and many new mechanics will not work?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
half a braincell would tell you that.

thats why you wait more than a minute before buying anything from corporates and conglomerates

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

Originally posted by Lain:

Of course the new content is gonna be buggy and many new mechanics will not work?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
half a braincell would tell you that.

thats why you wait more than a minute before buying anything from corporates and conglomerates

Nah ♥♥♥♥ that I want my thunder barge and marienburg landship.

[Flickmann]

Originally posted by Googley Eye'd Bastard:

Originally posted by Lain:

Of course the new content is gonna be buggy and many new mechanics will not work?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
half a braincell would tell you that.

thats why you wait more than a minute before buying anything from corporates and conglomerates

Nah ♥♥♥♥ that I want my thunder barge and marienburg landship.

This is why new content is buggy and many new mechanics will not work. Content junkies have destroyed gaming.

[qwass]

Want dwarfs supposed to expand slower and with purpous?
And as video shows in second example it does not spiral So much.
There is option to not start age of reconing for a reason and this reason is luck of grudges to settle
But there are bonuses u might Say but there is "free" army u might Say and i will Say but there is
STRATEGY in tags So do not be upset for game demanding from u more than second of thinking

[Naustghoul]

THE class move that CA could do in this case would be, since they have broken the DLC into three parts anyway, to DELAY the dwarfs DLC until the issue is addressed.

I know that would have me frothing (I luv my stunties) BUT I would rather have something done right than something broken that needs fixing after I buy it.

Now CA being CA, I am going to guess that they will not do this and will instead say something akin to 'Sorry, blah blah, development times, blah blah, need time and patience which we thank you for, blah blah, looking forward to your thought...' While they patently ignore us and pull in more money for the managers to snort up their noses as they whip the crisis development team to fix something that was probably brought up multiple times before launch.