Traits - bad

[Cpt. Moron]

When will we have fixed traits? Surely it's not just me that cringes when you start a new Settra campaign and you get "Infantry Master" and "Chariot Master" on your initial Tomb Prince. Or you unlock a new bloodline and get "Determined". CA really need to stop and not only look at improving some of the traits but rework the whole way traits are attributed to begin with. I've lost interest and immersion in so many campaigns just because of rolling a useless trait on something i was looking forward to.

[Aleera]

Here's a protip if you dislike the randomized traits.

When you find a lord / hero you like. Save it to the hero pool at lvl 1.

[Dagy47]

ye ca has no clue what to do with traits, so dont hold your breath on that, just get a mod for traits, its the only way

[Hex]

They don't even make that big a difference, not to the point that you would need a cheat mod. Sure, some are really nice but they won't make or break your campaign.

90% of your early fighting is done with LLs with set traits and heroes are kinda whatever. Later you have such strong armies that the lord doesn't really matter.

[Cpt. Moron]

Originally posted by Hex:

They don't even make that big a difference, not to the point that you would need a cheat mod. Sure, some are really nice but they won't make or break your campaign.

90% of your early fighting is done with LLs with set traits and heroes are kinda whatever. Later you have such strong armies that the lord doesn't really matter.

Yes, you are right, they do not make a big difference to the overall success of the campaign. This does not mean it's fun or polished though. It just leaves a bad taste in your mouth when you get this bad trait RNG.

[Hex]

Originally posted by Cpt. Moron:

Originally posted by Hex:

They don't even make that big a difference, not to the point that you would need a cheat mod. Sure, some are really nice but they won't make or break your campaign.

90% of your early fighting is done with LLs with set traits and heroes are kinda whatever. Later you have such strong armies that the lord doesn't really matter.

Yes, you are right, they do not make a big difference to the overall success of the campaign. This does not mean it's fun or polished though. It just leaves a bad taste in your mouth when you get this bad trait RNG.

Traits used to be funny, another fun aspect ruined by the PC police.

[Isaac]

Originally posted by Aleera:

Here's a protip if you dislike the randomized traits.

When you find a lord / hero you like. Save it to the hero pool at lvl 1.

that's actually a really neat thing that most people don't know about.

[Aleera]

Originally posted by Hex:

Traits used to be funny, another fun aspect ruined by the PC police.

Wot? What does political correctness have to do with the traits being all equalized in power?

Originally posted by Isaac:

that's actually a really neat thing that most people don't know about.

Total War isn't exactly known for explaining it's mechanics. You just got to figure it out.

[Breeding Medicine]

I mean it's been 3 years and daniel has not been fixed, do you really expect balance which makes sense? Half of the followers and items are either useless or plain boring.

It takes only one good math guy to figure things out, I guess UK poses such no more.

Think of the items granting not only positive bonuses, but negatives as well, there is a such big room for a fan item builds, yet the best game offers is sword of Khaine and that ward save %.

[Hex]

Originally posted by Aleera:

Originally posted by Hex:

Traits used to be funny, another fun aspect ruined by the PC police.

Wot? What does political correctness have to do with the traits being all equalized in power?

I'll just say that your priests in medieval 2 could get a choir boy follower trait and let you figure it out.

[Zeek]

Traits should be fewer but more powerful.

Currently the vast majority are useless or 'meh' ones, imo.

[Da_Higg]

Whether a trait is good or not is really a matter of the situation and your personal preference; a trait you dismiss as worthless might be exactly what someone else puts great value in.

[Ashley]

I like strong traits that make heroes more specialized to different things. But i'm sure multiplayers would complain like they do about everything

[Hex]

All traits should boost whatever it is that hero does and have no starting traits to prevent the situation where people get angry when they don't get the trait they want.

[Zeek]

Originally posted by Da_Higg:

Whether a trait is good or not is really a matter of the situation and your personal preference; a trait you dismiss as worthless might be exactly what someone else puts great value in.

You think people are putting great value in traits like +5% movement, -1 public order, or +8 melee attack on a caster?

While not worthless, a ton of them offer nothing but negligible buffs that might as well not exist.

[Hex]

Originally posted by Zeek:

Originally posted by Da_Higg:

Whether a trait is good or not is really a matter of the situation and your personal preference; a trait you dismiss as worthless might be exactly what someone else puts great value in.

You think people are putting great value in traits like +5% movement, -1 public order, or +8 melee attack on a caster?

While not worthless, a ton of them offer nothing but negligible buffs that might as well not exist.

Yes, it's like +melee attack on a caster OR +fire damage or winds. The contrast is too vast. Another idea would be to make it so you get a trait at level10 like the DE names of power so you can choose one.