Can someone recommend good doomstack/solid lineups for Empire and Elspeth Von Draken?.

[!Taffy]

I understand Empire is mostly good at artillery, magic, and ranged units. So are there any good frontlines?

[thegeodemon]

I think ya can't go wrong with halberdiers since they have AP and charge defense, don't require micro, but a big part of the gunner/war machine comp is that you'll get a LOT, LOT of friendly fire if you dont manually target. This becomes worse if your frontline is cav- but in that case youi should move to the sides and tie them up from flanks.

Vs straight up infantry greatswords work pretty well even though their stats don't shout that at ya. Pretty much total war unit's MA and MD stats are secondary to things like attack animations/mass/unit size. The tooltips for the guys are pretty accurate though, if it says damage dealer or anti infantry- it'll do fine in campaign.

More to your question- I find mixing in heroes is the DOOMSTACK you're looking for. Empire infantry is simply lackluster but Warpriests, captains, and witchhunters can cover a lot of their weaknesses. That being said, mix in the state troops and renown units- thats where you're doom in the stack will come from.

[SBA77]

You do realize that a doomstack usually consists of a single unit type, i.e. the Ancient Stegadon doomstack.

Anyway the best Empire Doomstack is the steam tank doomstack. Pretty basic suggestion, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[5kittles]

Doomstacks are not eficcent in TTW WH3 anymore. Exccept ur not able to win fights by your own then just dont do doomstacks. If u need em for Auto-Resolves then u dont have to care about anything, just stack the unit with the highest price

[pascal.difolco]

Artillery, heroes to protect it, outriders spam is fun

[art_loots]

When people actually take away their own fun and enjoyment of the game of learning the game, mechanics and units.
heck why do these people even buy DLC

[Zefar]

Originally posted by 5kittles:

Doomstacks are not eficcent in TTW WH3 anymore. Exccept ur not able to win fights by your own then just dont do doomstacks. If u need em for Auto-Resolves then u dont have to care about anything, just stack the unit with the highest price

Doomstacks are very effective when done right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ0R3KmlDA8

I'd say nothing in the game can defeat that. Elspeth has some very viable doomstacks to make too.

[5kittles]

Originally posted by Zefar:

Originally posted by 5kittles:

Doomstacks are not eficcent in TTW WH3 anymore. Exccept ur not able to win fights by your own then just dont do doomstacks. If u need em for Auto-Resolves then u dont have to care about anything, just stack the unit with the highest price

Doomstacks are very effective when done right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ0R3KmlDA8

I'd say nothing in the game can defeat that. Elspeth has some very viable doomstacks to make too.

i sayed efficient and not effective. Sure a Doomstack is hard to defeat but u never need that and u can easily scrap 2 Armies with the cost of 1 Doomstack (if there is no extrem buff on them)
After nearly 600hrs on the hardest difficulty there was never a need for a Doomstack for mine cause the Game is so much easier than TWW WH2

[Bisexual Offender]

The only frontline you need is tanks, 2 should be fine, otherwise Nuln ironside double as a frontline for anything that manages to survive.
Basically play Empire as if it is Empire Total War.

[Gundalf]

I find that Greatsword and Huntsman make a good core for the army due to their ease of recruitment needing only a tier 3 barracks. I am also not sure if outside of Elsbeth it is even worth it to build the Handgunner building, since you can already get Huntman with the barracks and War wagons or Landships have handguns.

[BIG E.]

Best frontline are tanks or/and heroes.

4 heroes, 4 tanks, 4 ironsides, 4 rocket bateries, 2 long rifles

thats 18, you can fill the last 2 with whatever your heart desire.

Just forget infantry exists after certain point. They are trash and only really useful at the early campaign, at least in Empire's case they are. Your best defensive infantry has 40 armor and no shields. They are like bloons they pop instantly when the weakest missile hits them.

[!Taffy]

Originally posted by thegeodemon:

I think ya can't go wrong with halberdiers since they have AP and charge defense, don't require micro, but a big part of the gunner/war machine comp is that you'll get a LOT, LOT of friendly fire if you dont manually target. This becomes worse if your frontline is cav- but in that case youi should move to the sides and tie them up from flanks.

Vs straight up infantry greatswords work pretty well even though their stats don't shout that at ya. Pretty much total war unit's MA and MD stats are secondary to things like attack animations/mass/unit size. The tooltips for the guys are pretty accurate though, if it says damage dealer or anti infantry- it'll do fine in campaign.

More to your question- I find mixing in heroes is the DOOMSTACK you're looking for. Empire infantry is simply lackluster but Warpriests, captains, and witchhunters can cover a lot of their weaknesses. That being said, mix in the state troops and renown units- thats where you're doom in the stack will come from.

Thanks for the tips

[!Taffy]

Originally posted by art_loots:

When people actually take away their own fun and enjoyment of the game of learning the game, mechanics and units.
heck why do these people even buy DLC

I just wanted recommendations because I am really new to Total War, so I barely even know empire.

[!Taffy]

Originally posted by BIG E.:

Best frontline are tanks or/and heroes.

4 heroes, 4 tanks, 4 ironsides, 4 rocket bateries, 2 long rifles

thats 18, you can fill the last 2 with whatever your heart desire.

Just forget infantry exists after certain point. They are trash and only really useful at the early campaign, at least in Empire's case they are. Your best defensive infantry has 40 armor and no shields. They are like bloons they pop instantly when the weakest missile hits them.

Thanks

[Zefar]

You can make a doomstack with Engineer Heroes too.

If you buff all of their ranged damage skills which will be at least at level 30+ you will have some powerful ranged units.

But do be careful about friendly fire, because I had my group instant kill another hero in one volley.

[Human bean]

Heres something even better for you, if you ever tire of doomstacks: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789896406&searchtext=tabletop+caaps