do artillery suck for you guys too? or is it just me?

[goobacks]

during 20 units vs 20 unit battles, I'm defending a choke point, and my big bad artillery (I'm playing empire btw) just seem to suck. it takes forever to load, the accuracy is terrible (even the max level regiments of renown), the Ai is really wonky and half the time they just stand there not doing anything at all, and if by some miracle they actually hit the enemy, IT DOESN'T EVEN KILL THEM. I mean yeah you're wearing armor, but an exploding cannon just smacked you in the face, how are you getting up after that. (I'm playing on legendary difficulty and fighting against heavily armored chaos boys if that makes a difference). I'm talking about the explodey artillery, cannons and rockets. They just seem to suck.

the magic sniper wagon seems to be decent though, they're accurate enough to be able to bring down a chaos giant quickly.

It seems shields in the front and hand guns at the back is what's working for me right now. And mind you, I'm defending a city full of choke points. This should be an artillery's dream come true but they STILL suck.

[Mollerz]

So much text. So little usable information.

Quite the feat.

[zacharyb]

Just you, though Mortars are pretty meh, Helstorm Rocket Batterys and Hellblaster Volley Guns are really good.

[Adamsevs]

Mortars are very good if you get at the very least 3 of them with ranks and a few tech buffs
I keep using them in end game balanced armies with Vampire Coast !

Just one or two without any boost feels like a wasted slot

[Nomak Drome]

Just try the Queen Bess.

[Adamsevs]

Originally posted by Nomak Drome:

Just try the Queen Bess.

Lol yes, thought she have been big time nerfed from wh2, she used to have bunchs of explosives fragments upon each shot fired, not anymore.
The most powerful damage wise artilleries are rather on the chorf side now

[-Singularity-]

I never use cannon, they miss a lot and dont seem to do much. As was said though, hellblasters and Hellstorms are pretty awesome.

[MadArtillery]

Artillery sucks in city fights, it's the opposite of a dream come true there no idea why you would think that would be a dream come true.

Artillery can be pretty devastating but you need to have it hitting the right targets. Every piece is different after all. If you shoot cannons at infantry you had better be out of proper targets. They excel at killing enemy artillery actually as a primary role and then mostly pounding on bigger easier to hit targets.

Catapults tend to be my fav as anti infantry is pretty much always relevant, skaven plagueclaws are just value machines and well worth a sketchy alliance to acquire. Greenskins doomdivers are also value machines with those homing armour peircing projectiles racking up a ton of value pretty much always. The hellblasters on the wagons from that empire RoR is pretty sick too and as you've already stated the Luminarch of Hysh is quite a good artillery peice. Any Rocket spam artillery also is a top contender for the same reason catapults tend to be.

[Mr.Hmm]

Artillery in siege fights are good only in 2 situations.

First, You get your army outside the walls and fight them there while your artillery kills the enemy army outside.
Second, You got a huge location inside the walls where you can lure all the enemy armies there and kill them with artillery.

Aside from these 2 situations Artillery always sucks in Siege battles.

[Hieronymous]

Hellstorms are awesome and I have several in every army.

I have no clue whether they are good.

[Fauxsteel]

artillery need ranks to improve their accuracy. They work poorly at long range now that the AI moves out of the trajected landed area.

[goobacks]

Originally posted by MadArtillery:

Artillery sucks in city fights, it's the opposite of a dream come true there no idea why you would think that would be a dream come true.

It’s because city siege battles have lots of choke points where you could force tons of enemy units to be clustered at one place.
I remember playing Attila Total War and you could manually control catapults like it was a first person shooter. I had a few spear units hold a choke point while I manually bombarded the choke point. I’d easily get 30 kills per shot, each shot turning entire groups of enemies into red goo in a single hit. I think there were battles where I could get 700 kills from just 1 catapult unit.

[MadArtillery]

Originally posted by goobacks:

Originally posted by MadArtillery:

Artillery sucks in city fights, it's the opposite of a dream come true there no idea why you would think that would be a dream come true.

It’s because city siege battles have lots of choke points where you could force tons of enemy units to be clustered at one place.
I remember playing Attila Total War and you could manually control catapults like it was a first person shooter. I had a few spear units hold a choke point while I manually bombarded the choke point. I’d easily get 30 kills per shot, each shot turning entire groups of enemies into red goo in a single hit. I think there were battles where I could get 700 kills from just 1 catapult unit.

You can still manually control artillery. Homeing artillery even lets you drive the projectile. Like the doomdivers from the doomdiver catapult.

[goobacks]

Originally posted by MadArtillery:

You can still manually control artillery. Homeing artillery even lets you drive the projectile. Like the doomdivers from the doomdiver catapult.

Wait ,what??? You can STILL DO IT??? But there’s no button! There used to be a button that lets you do it! So now it’s a hotkey? Oh man this is when the advisor should pop out and tell me about things like that. I really had no idea. Ok this changes everything those chaos knights are about to get wrecked

[MadArtillery]

Originally posted by goobacks:

Originally posted by MadArtillery:

You can still manually control artillery. Homeing artillery even lets you drive the projectile. Like the doomdivers from the doomdiver catapult.

Wait ,what??? You can STILL DO IT??? But there’s no button! There used to be a button that lets you do it! So now it’s a hotkey? Oh man this is when the advisor should pop out and tell me about things like that. I really had no idea. Ok this changes everything those chaos knights are about to get wrecked

Pretty sure there is a button in the bottom left. It's not with the rest of the unit stuff. I usually only do it in coop campaigns. The sky junk of cathay is probably the best to do it with.

[melta]

luvs me arty m8, shoots da big dakka, splodes dem little uns ova da hillz, get lots of munchies wit da boyz afta da fightinz iz ova