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撿骨頭 Mar 1, 2024 @ 1:54am
The Belonging of the Monkey King
I hope the Monkey King is the Ind faction .
The Monkey Army will become the prototype army for the Ind faction and thus can be reused.
The Monkey King is similar to "Cult of Pleasure", but with the added corruption of Tzeentch.
But the Monkey King himself can join the camp of Tzeentch or Cathay.

The Monkey King rule is remembered in Cathay history as the “Time of Darkness and Disharmony”. Cathay's harmony mechanism is not suitable for it.
There are two known characters in The Monkey King's Monkey Court. One of them is a follower of Tzeentch named Dien Ch'ing, and the other is a warlord from the Eshin clan named Skaven.

After getting what he wanted from Tzeentch, the Monkey King betrayed the aforementioned Tzeentch ambassador.
The changelings attempted to turn Cathay's public opinion against Sun Wukong, possibly because of his betrayal of Tzeentch.
Last edited by 撿骨頭; Mar 1, 2024 @ 8:56pm
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SBA77 Mar 1, 2024 @ 9:57am 
Now that's quite clever, but I don't know if Monkey King will necessarily be aligned with Chaos. I don't think he's a Chaos character though as the current (revamped) lore they've released on him made it look more like he was manipulated by Tzeentch into taking over Cathay rather than actually working for him himself.

I guess it also depends on whether they make Ind a Chaos-aligned faction as well, if they add them that is and if they make Monkey an Ind character rather than Cathayan one.
Last edited by SBA77; Mar 1, 2024 @ 11:12am
Enelith Mar 1, 2024 @ 10:01am 
I wouldn't mind if he was similar-ish to Morathi, being here a Cathay character, which eventually spread Tzeentch corruption.
We'll see anyway.
TYKATYR Mar 1, 2024 @ 1:13pm 
I hope he has nothing to do with Chaos. In the original Chinese story monkey king is a good character.
stompie5 Mar 1, 2024 @ 1:29pm 
It pleases me to see others who are interested in a Monkey King. I hope he isn't a Chaos entity
MOON_MAN Mar 1, 2024 @ 1:30pm 
Hope we get a primate cast types like lizard men.
Skinks - monkeys/baboons
Saurus - Chimps/apes
Kroxigor - Gorilla
Slann - Orangutans
Dagy47 Mar 1, 2024 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by 撿骨頭:
I hope the Monkey King is the Ind faction .
The Monkey Army will become the prototype army for the Ind faction and thus can be reused.
The Monkey King is similar to "Cult of Pleasure", but with the added corruption of Tzeentch.
But the Monkey King himself can join the camp of Tzeentch or Cathay.
I love the part where Monkey King said "its monkey time" and monkeyd all over the place...




Originally posted by TYKATYR:
I hope he has nothing to do with Chaos. In the original Chinese story monkey king is a good character.
A chaotic good more precisely if we go by the alignment charts. Does that mean he has to be chaos aligned? not necessarily
Last edited by Dagy47; Mar 1, 2024 @ 2:18pm
SBA77 Mar 1, 2024 @ 3:12pm 
Originally posted by MOON_MAN:
Hope we get a primate cast types like lizard men.
Skinks - monkeys/baboons
Saurus - Chimps/apes
Kroxigor - Gorilla
Slann - Orangutans
You'll get gray langurs only and like it :p
Originally posted by Dagy47:
Originally posted by TYKATYR:
I hope he has nothing to do with Chaos. In the original Chinese story monkey king is a good character.
A chaotic good more precisely if we go by the alignment charts. Does that mean he has to be chaos aligned? not necessarily
"Not necessarily" is putting it lightly. I'd say definitely not.

"Chaos" in Warhammer isn't the same as the "chaotic" alignment. It's more akin to literal primordial chaos (à la Greek mythology) plus objective evil.
The Monkey King could simply be a character with his own motivations the same way that Arkhan is hated by the other Tomb Kings, thus making him an enemy to Cathay.

...Knowing GW though, they'd probably cheap out and make him chaos-aligned anyway, because designing 3-dimensional characters (or even races: just look at Norsca) is apparently too hawd for them these days...
Last edited by Bloodwyrm Wildheart; Mar 2, 2024 @ 12:54am
Kapika96 Mar 2, 2024 @ 1:50am 
Ind is the tigermen. Why would they have a Cathayan monkey king as an LL?

Also, based on the lore I've seen so far the monkey king is very much not aligned with chaos. He sounds like a bit of a ♥♥♥♥, but he's not a servant of any of the chaos gods.
Originally posted by Kapika96:
Ind is the tigermen. Why would they have a Cathayan monkey king as an LL?

Also, based on the lore I've seen so far the monkey king is very much not aligned with chaos. He sounds like a bit of a ♥♥♥♥, but he's not a servant of any of the chaos gods.
No, Ind isn't just tigermen. Ind is home to a great variety of non-chaos beastmen, as well as humans. You're thinking of Khuresh which, as far as we know, is just snakemen / naga.
8-The-General-8 Mar 2, 2024 @ 2:25am 
Wu Kong needs another read I think.

Definitely wouldn't align with Chaos.
SBA77 Mar 2, 2024 @ 2:30am 
Originally posted by Kapika96:
Ind is the tigermen. Why would they have a Cathayan monkey king as an LL?

Also, based on the lore I've seen so far the monkey king is very much not aligned with chaos. He sounds like a bit of a ♥♥♥♥, but he's not a servant of any of the chaos gods.
We actually don't really know anything about Ind, well other than they have tigermen and exist. (Though I suppose that Caravan event suggests that they may also be amicable with the other races/nation as well and trade with them.)

For all we know Ind could be a nation of humanoid animals that were created by and serve pastiches of the Hindu gods rather than Chaos and they are on a crusade against it, or they could just be a Mughal Empire of humans ruled by said Hindu and in which their most devout and holiest of warriors are transformed into animal people such as tigermen and maybe even elephantmen and monkeymen.
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Date Posted: Mar 1, 2024 @ 1:54am
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