Are Orks Inherently Evil?

[yuzhonglu]

Or is it the result of their shi- culture?

[jonoliveira12]

Orcs (nor Orks, those are 40K only) are inherently violenty and malicious.
Their entire lifecycle is about violence and brutality, and their culture is one of Might Makes Right to the extreme. Orcs have no real concept of Good or Evil, only raw power matters.

[highfist]

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

And yet no one else wants to live in their crap society. And given the amount of revolutions and civil wars orks do, I highly doubt that orks "know their place."

Anyone who understands anything of ork history in Warhammer and Tolkein lore will know that they have a tendency to KILL their leaders the moment they have the opportunity to do so. Orks are always one bad defeat away from a ruinous civil war.

It's exactly the type of society psychopaths (and orks are psychopaths) would admire, but not necessarily want to live in.

hmm them killing their leaders dont seem so bad, it would routinely drain the swamp so to speak. if only we adopted some of their culture...

[yuzhonglu]

Uh huh. I understand Orkland is a Warhammer fiction, but assuming there is a real life society based around Orkland's principles of "survival of the fittest" and "no respect for individual rights" and "endless war", and since you admire their culture so much, why don't you move there?

Given how often they lose soldiers in meatwave attacks, they could certainly use more immigrants.

[Zeek]

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

And yet no one else wants to live in their crap society.

I don't see any leaving. In fact, multiple reports say the opposite; it's fantastic.

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

And given the amount of revolutions and civil wars orks do, I highly doubt that orks "know their place."

"Might makes right" is a thing. They absolutely respect (and fear) their leaders, as they should. Orks have came close to taking over the world a few times.

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

Anyone who understands anything of ork history in Warhammer and Tolkein lore will know that they have a tendency to KILL their leaders the moment they have the opportunity to do so. Orks are always one bad defeat away from a ruinous civil war.

As opposed to other nations where this has never ever happened? This is not a unique ork phenomenon at all.

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

It's exactly the type of society psychopaths (and orks are psychopaths) would admire, but not necessarily want to live in.

Orks have been doing fine for centuries. The only ones who have a problem with their society are the ones to fragile to exist within it.

[Pooh]

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

I always find it amusing when even orks admit they're orks. Kind of funny how in Hobbit language even they call the other side the good guys.

Even Orks know how full of shi- they are. It's internalized in their culture.

Based.

Orks are inherently evil 100%. They derive personal satisfaction from disembowelling people.

[yuzhonglu]

I always find it amusing that people who defend Orkland never want to admit they'll move their themselves. The thing with psychopaths is they don't understand WHY people work together because they have no conscience or moral values themselves. Consequently the ONLY way they can understand how society works is through "might makes right." That's why they repeat that mantra over and over again because they're incapable of understanding anything else.

But even psychopaths understand they don't want to live in such a society because they understand in such a society they won't be the mighty....

My take on Orks in Warhammer lore is that they're psychopaths. But even psychopaths can understand how f-ed they are living in such a society.

[Dr. Uncredible]

ANOTHER thinly veiled russia discussion Yuzho?
How many do you need to start?

[yuzhonglu]

Originally posted by Dr. Uncredible:

ANOTHER thinly veiled russia discussion Yuzho?
How many do you need to start?

What? I'm talking Warhammer Orks. YOU'RE bringing in real life politics. Everything I've said above is an accurate representation of Orks in Warhammer lore:

1. Endless wars.
2. No moral values beyond might makes right.
3. A lack of capability of acquiring moral values.
4. Tendency to launch meatwave attacks into gunlines.
5. Constant civil wars, especially after military defeat.
6. No one else wants to live where they are.

[Zeek]

Alright I've had my fun counter-trolling, it's getting weird now.

Originally posted by Dr. Uncredible:

ANOTHER thinly veiled russia discussion Yuzho?
How many do you need to start?

Right? I swear this is like his 10th one that I've seen

[Ashardalon]

orks, the 40k greenskins not orc in this game, are a bioweapon
is a knife evil for stabbing someone
they are a good advice not to make a bioweapons since it will hang around after the war
but in the end its just doing what its designed to do
in the end its the old ones that are evil, they caused the war in heaven, they turned the empyrean into the warp the orks are just a puppet in their constant hunger for more power and control even as they cause reality itself to fall to the perversion of the eldar

[yuzhonglu]

Originally posted by Zeek:

Alright I've had my fun counter-trolling, it's getting weird now.

Originally posted by Dr. Uncredible:

ANOTHER thinly veiled russia discussion Yuzho?
How many do you need to start?

Right? I swear this is like his 10th one that I've seen

No one is bringing politics into this discussion except you and Dr. Incredible. I'm just here to talk about Orks and how they suck.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Dr. Uncredible:

ANOTHER thinly veiled russia discussion Yuzho?
How many do you need to start?

Yes, it is.
Yuzhonglu is mad his girl made off with Ivan, or something. Russia is an oligarchy controlled nation, even, which is completely the opposite of the orcish Might Makes Right approach.

Maybe he should hit the gym more often, instead of baiting political discussions in videogame forums, he would be happier with life, and luckier with women.

[Dr. Uncredible]

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

Originally posted by Dr. Uncredible:

ANOTHER thinly veiled russia discussion Yuzho?
How many do you need to start?

What? I'm talking Warhammer Orks. YOU'RE bringing in real life politics. Everything I've said above is an accurate representation of Orks in Warhammer lore:

1. Endless wars.
2. No moral values beyond might makes right.
3. A lack of capability of acquiring moral values.
4. Tendency to launch meatwave attacks into gunlines.
5. Constant civil wars, especially after military defeat.
6. No one else wants to live where they are.

Just give it a rest dude, it was kinda funny, but it´s the same joke over and over again, we don´t need ten of the blighters.

[yuzhonglu]

Ok I'm going to start reporting people if they continue bringing in real life politics into a topic about a fictional race in Warhammer.

There's no biat. Any bait that you see is just in your imagination. I'm here to discuss Orks society in Warhammer lore and if you try to hijack the thread with real life politics or throw shade at me, I'm going to report.

[Zeek]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Yes, it is.
Yuzhonglu is mad his girl made off with Ivan, or something. Russia is an oligarchy controlled nation, even, which is completely the opposite of the orcish Might Makes Right approach.

Maybe he should hit the gym more often, instead of baiting political discussions in videogame forums, he would be happier with life, and luckier with women.

Lmao, this explains everything.