How much money does it cost to have an actual fun campaign?

[Grumpy Sunshine]

There are a lot of DLC's and they're expensive, I also read somewhere that the previous games even act as DLC's or something for the newer titles, and that they're key to having an actually fun and unrestricted "you need X to do X" playthrough, is this true? if so what should I be considering adding to my cart? im a massive warhammer fan and I have over 1000 hours in vermintide and darktide respectively and im looking for a new game to get immersed in.

[Threetails]

Originally posted by Grumpy Sunshine:

There are a lot of DLC's and they're expensive, I also read somewhere that the previous games even act as DLC's or something for the newer titles, and that they're key to having an actually fun and unrestricted "you need X to do X" playthrough, is this true? if so what should I be considering adding to my cart? im a massive warhammer fan and I have over 1000 hours in vermintide and darktide respectively and im looking for a new game to get immersed in.

My suggestion is to buy the base game and play it. It is fun enough to play by itself. If you are having a blast playing the base game, then wait for a sale to buy the DLC. Buy whichever DLC you are most interested in.

[Zeek]

Just buy the base game, play a campaign or two, and pick and choose dlcs you find interesting.

[Threetails]

To go into a little more detail, the content of each of the previous games is forward ported into this game, but to play that content you need to own the previous games.

Each base game race has a certain number of Legendary Lords (LLs) you can have command your faction which each have their own starting point. Each faction also has a certain number of base units. Each base faction is both playable and fairly fun.

DLC gives you more LLs and units, or can also give you a new faction to play with.

I recommend the game 3 DLC first, if you want to buy something. Play it tomorrow, and if you have fun, buy more DLC. TBH just game 3 is easily worth 100-200 hrs of gameplay if you like it. Add game 1+2 you have at least 500 hrs sunk just learning every faction and then beating them on a higher-medium difficulty. Unless you have a lifestyle where you can afford to play videogames all the time, 100-200 hrs of content is the kind of thing which will take you weeks.

[Breeding Medicine]

if you can't have fun with base game chances are DLCs won't fix it.

[Basement cat]

Hello I am also a vermintide fan. The answer is no DLC are needed? You just need to buy the DLC you want to play as. For me personally I just play the high elf in immortal empire. Play as teclis, sneak into china and bulldozed everything. I got bored after that. I purchased all the dlc and didn't used any of them. You will see them(DLC) on the battlefield but to be honest as enemy they don't stand out much and most of the either get wiped out before you meet them or get crushed under dragons all the same. you only need DLC if you are interested to play as them, not against them.

[Egro]

Originally posted by Breeding Medicine:

if you can't have fun with base game chances are DLCs won't fix it.

Nah, the whole point is to make the base game bare bone to create an incentive to buy DLCs. Cathay lack good melee lords? you can get 'em in an overprice DLC. Kislev lack good cheap early game melee unit? you can get 'em in the same overprice DLC. You will have more fun with DLCs because it fix the base game. Skip your breakfast for them DLCs baby!(It's a joke, please don't)

[Master Chud]

It costs nothing.

[Necropants]

Only buy the factions you want to play as everything is in the game as they update it.

[Yannir]

People keep calling it "the base game". If I were new, I'd have no idea what "base game" means when there are three of them. What it means is you can buy any of them but you should be playing the highest number you own. So the recommendation would be to buy TW - Warhammer 3 first. Because the Immortal Empires map is a huge conglomeration map where you can play any race and DLC you own from all 3 games, and it comes with game 3.

There are 3 relevant DLC's for game 3. Champions of Chaos(CoC), Forge of the Chaos Dwarfs(FotCD) and Shadows of Change(SoC).

CoC adds marked mortal units to the Monogod Chaos factions of the base game as well as adding marked Legendary Lords for the Warriors of Chaos DLC faction of game 1. Just having this DLC and not the original WoC DLC race from game 1 means you just don't get access to the 3 Lords from the original DLC.

FotCD is a Race Pack that adds the Chaos Dwarfs as a playable faction. They're on the map anyway even if you don't buy it, you just can't play as them.

SoC adds new units, narrative campaigns and Legendary Lords to Kislev, Cathay and Tzeencth factions.

Then there's games 1 and 2 with all of their associated races and DLC.
Races that unlock from game 1: Empire, Dwarfs, Vampire Counts, Greenskins and Bretonnia.
Additional game 1 races unlocked via separate race pack DLC: Wood Elves, Beastmen and Warriors of Chaos.
Races that unlock from owning game 2: High Elves, Dark Elves, Skaven and the Lizardmen.
Additional game 2 races unlocked via race Pack DLC: Tomb Kings and Vampire Coast.
Most of these races have additional Lord Pack DLC that adds additional units, campaign and Legendary Lords into their base races. There's also a whoopieton of free downloadable content for each of them.

Coming from other Warhammer Fantasy content, you should understand that CA has divided the (Army book) races a little further than Games Workshop has.
Chaos is a good example. Where GW handles Chaos as basically a single faction, CA has divided it to 5. Or 6 if you count the Daemon Prince.
Anyway, they are Warriors of Chaos, Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh and Tzeentch. Daemon Prince being an "Undivided" daemon faction. Warriors of Chaos is basically undivided and marked mortals of Chaos and they focus on the mortal roster while having limited access to daemons. The others are monogod factions with only marked mortals and daemons of each Chaos god with unlimited daemon access.

Edit: Forgot Norsca and Ogre Kingdoms. Which are Pre-Order Race Pack DLC's for games 2 and 3.

[Lamp]

There's *some* fun to be had but it's all overpriced for what it is. And there's the added ding of knowing that your money would support some seriously greedy, shortsighted corporate ineptitude.

Even if you own all of it the AI is still broken, the unit movement is poor, sieges are an insult to the word and the list goes on.

[Many-Named]

Originally posted by Breeding Medicine:

if you can't have fun with base game chances are DLCs won't fix it.

[Gnarl]

Yeah, any of the base games is good time. For 1 I like all the starting factions, but I learned on Vampire Counts and just sent zombies and skeletons around until I learned more about the game and its controls.

For WH2, I like Dark Elves the best, I finally played a Morathi campaign this month, and I can see why others enjoyed her campaign.

For WH3, the realm campaigns were fun to me. At launch it was too many settlement fights, but for new player should be fine. Also, less settlement fights now.

[Reaver79]

Originally posted by Yannir:

Forgot Norsca and Ogre Kingdoms. Which are Pre-Order Race Pack DLC's for games 2 and 3.

Norsca was just a DLC for game 1.. Chaos was the supposed pre-order race, and players got ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over big time on that one.

[TK_421]

Originally posted by Grumpy Sunshine:

There are a lot of DLC's and they're expensive, I also read somewhere that the previous games even act as DLC's or something for the newer titles, and that they're key to having an actually fun and unrestricted "you need X to do X" playthrough, is this true? if so what should I be considering adding to my cart? im a massive warhammer fan and I have over 1000 hours in vermintide and darktide respectively and im looking for a new game to get immersed in.

Honestly it mostly depends on your playstyle, if you are a warhammer fun surly you can find something to play with, but i recommend doing it step by step. Don't buy all of the dlcs at once. Look for a race that you wanna play then look for the dlcs that they have and the reviews are usually preatty accurate so you can tell which one will enhance the gameplay. Once you are done with that campaign look for another challange for yourself and then decide if you want to spend all of the money on the game. You don't need to spend any additional money to enjoy it, dlcs just usually make the game easier by giving you some cool units. I bought most of the dlcs because i faced them in battle and i was wondering how fun they are to play and then tested it by myself.

[Yannir]

Originally posted by Reaver79:

Originally posted by Yannir:

Forgot Norsca and Ogre Kingdoms. Which are Pre-Order Race Pack DLC's for games 2 and 3.

Norsca was just a DLC for game 1.. Chaos was the supposed pre-order race, and players got ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over big time on that one.

Yet you got it for free if you pre-purchased game 2? Or that's what I heard, I wasn't actually playing this game at the time.