Does Gorfang rotgut have any unique ability or something?

[Nexus]

So for those who don't know or need a refresher, gorfang is a unique greenskin lord that leads the minor faction called the red fangs

I'm not entirely sure what makes him unique specifically, maybe he has a bit of lore I don't know about, but the wiki says he is.

Now you can't select him in the faction list, nor can you get him through quests and the like. The only way to get him that I know of is confederation. Which can be difficult cause usually he dies around turn 12 from clan mors

Now... I managed to confederate his faction quick enough only to see there isn't really anything special about him. The trait i got on him was cunning.

So what I want to know is; is cunning his default/only trait? Or does he just spawn with completely random traits like any other normal lord

[AurumHawke]

Generic faction leaders get their innate randomly selected on starting the campaign.
Ice Witches get random ice court traits instead because they don't have an innate pool.
Unique traits would be listed in addition to the innate (as long as they have one).

Tyranoc is the example of a generic faction leader with a unique trait - chariots.

Meanwhile, two of the major Greenskin factions should have either Oglok or Raknik as starting heroes with a unique trait. Tech rewards actually... been a while.

[Funky Monk]

Gorfang is only a generic lord on the campaign, however there are mods that turn him into a legendary lord

[abyssalfury]

Lord wise, he's a minor named character that was included essentially as an easter egg. But back in the WH1 days, it was purely a name drop rather than them being unique. The various Empire factions are the same, with them being named Elector Counts, but not actually being unique characters (though they might get their appropriate Runefang, can't remember).

It wasn't until WH2 that we started to get unique traits/items for minor but still unique characters.

[Nexus]

Originally posted by AurumHawke:

Generic faction leaders get their innate randomly selected on starting the campaign.
Ice Witches get random ice court traits instead because they don't have an innate pool.
Unique traits would be listed in addition to the innate (as long as they have one).

Tyranoc is the example of a generic faction leader with a unique trait - chariots.

Meanwhile, two of the major Greenskin factions should have either Oglok or Raknik as starting heroes with a unique trait. Tech rewards actually... been a while.

Wait so... what's all this about minor faction lords having unique traits? Like as in only limited to them?

If so is there a list of them anywhere?

[Nexus]

Originally posted by abyssalfury:

Lord wise, he's a minor named character that was included essentially as an easter egg. But back in the WH1 days, it was purely a name drop rather than them being unique. The various Empire factions are the same, with them being named Elector Counts, but not actually being unique characters (though they might get their appropriate Runefang, can't remember).

It wasn't until WH2 that we started to get unique traits/items for minor but still unique characters.

Easter egg to what?

Also I got no clue what a runefang is cause I haven't played empire yet so... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Rip the dream of collecting unique characters in my playthroughs cause good lord that's gonna be impossible

[Funky Monk]

Originally posted by Nexus:

Originally posted by abyssalfury:

Lord wise, he's a minor named character that was included essentially as an easter egg. But back in the WH1 days, it was purely a name drop rather than them being unique. The various Empire factions are the same, with them being named Elector Counts, but not actually being unique characters (though they might get their appropriate Runefang, can't remember).

It wasn't until WH2 that we started to get unique traits/items for minor but still unique characters.

Easter egg to what?

Also I got no clue what a runefang is cause I haven't played empire yet so... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Rip the dream of collecting unique characters in my playthroughs cause good lord that's gonna be impossible

Runefangs are magical swords that the dwarves gifted the Empire back when Sigmar united the tribes, there are 12 of them

[Jerroser]

Originally posted by Nexus:

Originally posted by abyssalfury:

Lord wise, he's a minor named character that was included essentially as an easter egg. But back in the WH1 days, it was purely a name drop rather than them being unique. The various Empire factions are the same, with them being named Elector Counts, but not actually being unique characters (though they might get their appropriate Runefang, can't remember).

It wasn't until WH2 that we started to get unique traits/items for minor but still unique characters.

Easter egg to what?

Also I got no clue what a runefang is cause I haven't played empire yet so... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Rip the dream of collecting unique characters in my playthroughs cause good lord that's gonna be impossible

The Runefang's are basically a set of specially crafted swords that were given to each Elector Count at the founding of the Empire. In WH1 Franz could also use the Reikland Runfang as a Legendary weapon but his model is always holding Galmoraz. Then when he was made in to a semi LL Boris Todbringer got the Middinland Runefang as a unique weapon. In WH2 during the Empire update, they gave made each Runefang a unique weapon that starts in the ands of its appropriate Elector Count which can then be obtained and given out as the player gains control of more Empire Provinces.

[abyssalfury]

Originally posted by Nexus:

Originally posted by AurumHawke:

Generic faction leaders get their innate randomly selected on starting the campaign.
Ice Witches get random ice court traits instead because they don't have an innate pool.
Unique traits would be listed in addition to the innate (as long as they have one).

Tyranoc is the example of a generic faction leader with a unique trait - chariots.

Meanwhile, two of the major Greenskin factions should have either Oglok or Raknik as starting heroes with a unique trait. Tech rewards actually... been a while.

Wait so... what's all this about minor faction lords having unique traits? Like as in only limited to them?

If so is there a list of them anywhere?

List of Heroes, not counting Legendary Heroes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/14blbrv/list_of_all_unique_starting_hero_secondary_traits/

For lords, there's a decent amount.

Tomb Kings, Vampire Coast and Greenskins have some unique Lords via the tech tree. Norsca have either a Lord or Hero for each God via their Dedication mechanic.

Alastar the White Lion (High Elves), The Red Duke (Vampire Counts, Mousillon) and Boris Todbringer (Empire, Middenland) are all 'psuedo' Legendary Lords with a unique look and some unique skills/traits/items etc. Sarthoreal the Everwatcher (Tzeentch, Sarthoreal's Watchers) was similar, but I think they possibly got rid of his unique model.

Surtha Ek (Norsca, Varg) gets a unique trait if he defeats Settra (and vice versa); this is due to a WH1 meme. Surthara Bel-Kek (High Elves, Tiranoc) is a continuation of the meme, and does get a unique starting trait.

Most of the Empire factions are led by their relevant Elector Count. Each Elector Count gets a unique Runefang sword for their territory, but are otherwise vanilla.

Ghorth the Cruel (Chaos Dwarfs, Servants of the Conclave) is unfortunately I think entirely vanilla, despite the fact that he's a fairly major character for the CD.

There might be a few more as well.

[Conflagration]

Originally posted by Nexus:

Originally posted by AurumHawke:

Generic faction leaders get their innate randomly selected on starting the campaign.
Ice Witches get random ice court traits instead because they don't have an innate pool.
Unique traits would be listed in addition to the innate (as long as they have one).

Tyranoc is the example of a generic faction leader with a unique trait - chariots.

Meanwhile, two of the major Greenskin factions should have either Oglok or Raknik as starting heroes with a unique trait. Tech rewards actually... been a while.

Wait so... what's all this about minor faction lords having unique traits? Like as in only limited to them?

If so is there a list of them anywhere?

Sarthorael the Everwatcher and King Kazador of Karak Azul are the only non-playable faction leaders that get a unique trait.

[KoboldUtopian]

Originally posted by Obsidian:

Originally posted by Nexus:

Wait so... what's all this about minor faction lords having unique traits? Like as in only limited to them?

If so is there a list of them anywhere?

Sarthorael the Everwatcher and King Kazador of Karak Azul are the only non-playable faction leaders that get a unique trait.

Doesn't the Red Duke have one? and maybe Surtha Ek?

[KoboldUtopian]

Originally posted by Nexus:

Originally posted by abyssalfury:

Lord wise, he's a minor named character that was included essentially as an easter egg. But back in the WH1 days, it was purely a name drop rather than them being unique. The various Empire factions are the same, with them being named Elector Counts, but not actually being unique characters (though they might get their appropriate Runefang, can't remember).

It wasn't until WH2 that we started to get unique traits/items for minor but still unique characters.

Easter egg to what?

Also I got no clue what a runefang is cause I haven't played empire yet so... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Rip the dream of collecting unique characters in my playthroughs cause good lord that's gonna be impossible

The collecting the greenskin LLs is usually not too hard. Wurzag, Skarsnik, and Grimgor tend to stick around and get pretty powerful. Azhag is mixed and Grom tends to get wiped out fairly early.

[AurumHawke]

Originally posted by CoerciveUtopian:

Originally posted by Obsidian:

Sarthorael the Everwatcher and King Kazador of Karak Azul are the only non-playable faction leaders that get a unique trait.

Doesn't the Red Duke have one? and maybe Surtha Ek?

The Red Duke has a (hidden) name trait and his innate pool is a copy of one of the Vampire Counts generic lords. Didn't check which specifically, probably the Knight bloodline one. So unique character type but generic random innate.

Not entirely sure how Sarthorael gets his recently-added trait or which one it actually is yet (unique innate is almost a duplicate of the trait). One key thing to note here: innates are technically skills, not traits.

Surthara starts with a (possibly hidden) "personality" trait with various HEF chariot buffs - reload, speed, upkeep, recruit duration.
Surtha doesn't start with anything (not even his chariot) but has the unique defeat trait rivalry with Settra.

Originally posted by abyssalfury:

Surtha Ek (Norsca, Varg) gets a unique trait if he defeats Settra (and vice versa); this is due to a WH1 meme. Surthara Bel-Kek (High Elves, Tiranoc) is a continuation of the meme, and does get a unique starting trait.

[Velber]

all i know is his model has been a special one since the first game, and he hates grimgor