The Old World Campaign by ChaosRobie mod is perfect example that CA was really lazy with Immortal Empires.

[Aksolotli]

Karak Eight Peak being actually 8 settlements with all of the Three Dukes battling for it's control.
Empire Kislev, Norsca are actually huge.
Badlands are actually interesting.
You have actually room to explore and expand in South Kingdoms and Estalia.

One modder proofs if you just put love, dedication and read your source material the campaign world becomes interesting.

This mod alone just might salvage this game for me because CA sure can't fix it the and the DLC costs are atrocious.

This is what Immortal Empires should have been since day one!!!!!!

[Zeek]

Not to downplay that mod or the creator at all but last I checked there's a metric ♥♥♥♥ ton of empty space. Couple that with factions like Cathay and lizardmen being haphazardly forced into the map just because they can doesn't make it appealing to me.

People disliked the "mini campaigns" from game 1 yet here we are approaching full circle with their return in mod form.

[SBA77]

Originally posted by Aksolotli:

Karak Eight Peak being actually 8 settlements with all of the Three Dukes battling for it's control.
Empire Kislev, Norsca are actually huge.
Badlands are actually interesting.
You have actually room to explore and expand in South Kingdoms and Estalia.

One modder proofs if you just put love, dedication and read your source material the campaign world becomes interesting.

This mod alone just might salvage this game for me because CA sure can't fix it the and the DLC costs are atrocious.

This is what Immortal Empires should have been since day one!!!!!!

Except a big map with no story and where you can just mindlessly conquer stuff was exactly what the fans demanded, or do you not remember these?

Im just looking forward to the true Total War sandbox experience. In that environment without the RoC interference im gonna make my own fun.

Sandbox Options

I want this in sandbox mode

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2312099576282329027/1D5A0DB7B57F41564939B2AA851398A9F939ECF3/

Now RoC can be finally played as "Sandbox".

And much, much more.

[Aksolotli]

Originally posted by Zeek:

Not to downplay that mod or the creator at all but last I checked there's a metric ♥♥♥♥ ton of empty space. Couple that with factions like Cathay and lizardmen being haphazardly forced into the map just because they can doesn't make it appealing to me.

People disliked the "mini campaigns" from game 1 yet here we are approaching full circle with their return in mod form.

This is already twice the size of Immortal Empires and you are calling it a mini campaign.
Bravo!

[Zeek]

Originally posted by Aksolotli:

Originally posted by Zeek:

Not to downplay that mod or the creator at all but last I checked there's a metric ♥♥♥♥ ton of empty space. Couple that with factions like Cathay and lizardmen being haphazardly forced into the map just because they can doesn't make it appealing to me.

People disliked the "mini campaigns" from game 1 yet here we are approaching full circle with their return in mod form.

This is already twice the size of Immortal Empires and you are calling it a mini campaign.
Bravo!

Yeah and you know what you're getting when you play the K8P area?
Endless dwarves and greenskins and a couple of skaven.

Sounds like a mini campaign to me.

[SBA77]

Originally posted by Zeek:

Originally posted by Aksolotli:

This is already twice the size of Immortal Empires and you are calling it a mini campaign.
Bravo!

Yeah and you know what you're getting when you playing the K8P area?
Endless dwarves and greenskins and a couple of skaven.

Sounds like a mini campaigns to me.

And loads of nothing and empty space. I mean sure loads of open world AAA devs do that, but do you really want the modders that you are putting up on a pedestal to be compared with the likes of Ubisoft, Konami and Bethesda?

[Ashtaroth The Defiler]

I wouldn't say its lazy on CA's part, i enjoy immortal empires map, its just... a little claustrophobic when it comes to everything being on top of one another, i do much prefer ChaosRobies map where the land feels more spread out, cities aint right on your door step, hopefully he expands the map more in the future? been playing as Daemons and just high tail it to the pit and lock myself in untill ready to spread out, i do love the uniqueness of his map locations, as each spot feels like its own place, but i cant say its lazy on CA's part either, i think they done a decent job, just a case of tomatoes, tomatos to me.

On a side note, any one know of any mods that once you raze a settlement, its gone for good? keep playing as chaos and hate feeling forced to build a empire just to stop enemies getting free settlements after i raze them, when all i wanna do as chaos is wipe everything out.

[Darth Alpharius]

The map couldn't be made without CA's Help anyway.