Amazon-GW property officially (docs signed) under development

[Father Ribs]

No details yet. Hoping 40K > WHFB.

On Insta: "In December 2022 we announced Games Workshop and Amazon Studios had signed an agreement in principle to bring Warhammer 40,000 to screens big and small.

Today we have an update: we’ve now signed the full agreement and the next stage can begin!"

[Darth Alpharius]

Thats for the rumoured Henry Cavil 40K Series/Movie and maybe other things.

[Багряный]

This will be another absolute failure at the Rings of Power level. Amazon Studios doesn't know how to make masterpieces.

[Ashtaroth The Defiler]

^ Agreed, hope Amazon goes no where near warhammer.

[Funky Monk]

Originally posted by Багряный:

This will be another absolute failure at the Rings of Power level. Amazon Studios doesn't know how to make masterpieces.

I disagree, while Amazon has indeed produced crap like RoP and Wheel of Time, it also produces bangers such as the Boys and Invincible.

I think the issue with Amazon writers is that they don't fully understand how medieval fantasy work as well as a lack of knowledge on source material.

I have hope for the Warhammer 40k series for 2 reasons, firstly because of how hands on GW is with their precious IPs and secondly Henry Cavill will be an executive producer, who just happens to be a massive warhammer fan.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Funky Monk:

Originally posted by Багряный:

This will be another absolute failure at the Rings of Power level. Amazon Studios doesn't know how to make masterpieces.

I disagree, while Amazon has indeed produced crap like RoP and Wheel of Time, it also produces bangers such as the Boys and Invincible.

I think the issue with Amazon writers is that they don't fully understand how medieval fantasy work as well as a lack of knowledge on source material.

I have hope for the Warhammer 40k series for 2 reasons, firstly because of how hands on GW is with their precious IPs and secondly Henry Cavill will be an executive producer, who just happens to be a massive warhammer fan.

Their goal with RoP and WoT were to pervert the settings, in the name of diversity. They even said so out loud.
American entertainers really want to be political mouthpieces, for some reason.

[Rubyeyed]

40k is like Berserk, no movie or series can do it justice. At least not the big studios, only fan made shorts are of any quality.

[Zeek]

I feel like it's either going to be amazing or bomb hard. Hopefully the former since Caville is heavily involved

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Rubyeyed:

40k is like Berserk, no movie or series can do it justice. At least not the big studios, only fan made shorts are of any quality.

And they are both heavily based on Christianity, on steroids.

I love christian gothic!

[stompie5]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by Rubyeyed:

40k is like Berserk, no movie or series can do it justice. At least not the big studios, only fan made shorts are of any quality.

And they are both heavily based on Christianity, on steroids.

I love christian gothic!

I NEED this explained to me

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by stompie5:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

And they are both heavily based on Christianity, on steroids.

I love christian gothic!

I NEED this explained to me

What explaination is needed?

[stompie5]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by stompie5:

I NEED this explained to me

What explaination is needed?

How Berserk and Warhammer Total War are based on Christianity

[Father Ribs]

Originally posted by stompie5:

I NEED this explained to me

(Note: I use the term "Catholic" even though the UK has a checkered relationship with what exactly constitutes the one true faith ((TM)). CofE may be a better term, but that's basically Catholic lite, holding their rights in appropriated Catholic buildings, wearing fewer robes, and having a variety of alcohol (wherever you find four Episcopalians my wife says, you'll find a fifth.)

It's based on Christianity insomuch as you create from what you see and what you know. Tour Westminster Cathedral and even before you go in the door you'll be shaking your head going "ooooooh...I get it".

40K is just a smoosh of all the stuff in medieval England. Kings, knights, religion, crusades, beautiful cathedrals, and an iron skeleton of tradition that they drag behind themselves with a long chain.

The Emperor is a man who became a god. Or is God. Or is man pretending to be a god. Or is a man who became a god, then a bad god, then a corpse god. He died to save humanity. Theoretically he defeated death, but he's a corpse sitting on a gold throne eating a thousand souls a day. He may not actually be a god of "good". When it comes down to it, pretty much everyone in 40K is bad at best, evil at worst.

His Primarchs are his sons, who are also messianic figures. Or they're apostles. Or they're angels. Half become bad and are chased into the warp/hell. The demonic ones look cooler and have better parties.

The space marines are crusaders. Or angels. They wear robes like monks. Or don't. They're led by chaplains, unless they're not.

The Inquisition is the...inquisition. Heck, the Ecclesiarchy is basically a Catholic faith in a Catholic faith.

Planets are systems are fiefdoms. There's a law that any building a poor person doesn't live in has to look like a Cathedral. Their boats need to look like cathedrals. Their spaceships have to look like cathedrals. The titans have to look like Cathedrals (the Imperitor class, anyway).

The best reason 40K is like Christianity: All the civilians who live in it want to die so they can go to a better place. It's intolerant, miserable, everyone carries firearms and shoots each other, then the arbites show up and kill anyone left.

Unlike Christianity, they don't eat Emperor transmogrified into bread chunks. What they DO do, is eat the corpses of fellow civvies transmogrified into corpse starch.

Around the time of Mighty Fortress, 40K was definitely dark ages, where a mighty civilization had fallen, knowledge was being lost, superstition was taking hold, and the space marines were more religious fanatics than they are now. Now it's still an apocalypse scenario, but shiney, with new tech so they can make new models.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by stompie5:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

What explaination is needed?

How Berserk and Warhammer Total War are based on Christianity

It would actually be too much to get into here, but if you know Catholicism, you will immediately see all the references, on the base lore of both Berzerk and Warhammer, specially because they are all based around the 30 Years War era, by a huge amount.

Even the Godhand, from Berzerk is a nod to Gnosticism. There is also a good reason why both the Godhand and the Chaos Gods have 4 members each, and the 5th is always an ascended and martyred mortal (Griffith or the Emperor or Sigmar).

[Falaris]

The deal with Amazon is even more relevant for us, because it includes an option that Amazon can ALSO produce WARHAMMER FANTASY series *if* GW is pleased with the initial 40k release.

[Funky Monk]

Originally posted by Falaris:

The deal with Amazon is even more relevant for us, because it includes an option that Amazon can ALSO produce WARHAMMER FANTASY series *if* GW is pleased with the initial 40k release.

Id rather not have amazon produce a fantasy series, given their track record on the genre